Not Sure They\’ve Quite Got This Public Service Bit Yet.

There\’s more on they way in which elfn\’safety rules mean that Plod is to walk past someone drowning:

Rules for West Country officers are set out in a policy document headed Health and safety – water safety, which states: "Devon and Cornwall Constabulary do not expect or require any member of staff to enter water in a rescue attempt of any person or animal under any circumstances.

"Life-saving equipment such as life-belt, throw line, throw bag or buoyancy aid may be used where such use is in accordance and compliance with dynamic risk assessment procedures… Physical contact with a struggling casualty should be avoided to prevent a rescuer becoming overwhelmed and pulled into the water and submerged.

"The task of rescuing members of the public, or animals, from water lies primarily with other emergency services that are equipped and trained to undertake such tasks."

All of which is bad enough but the truly astonishing comment is this:

A force spokesman said: "No organisation can expect staff to risk their lives. However, the force has reported many instances where staff have saved people."

Well actually, yes, an organisation can expect staff to risk their lives. The military actually exists to do so. The emergency services are not, as is obvious, the military, but they are half way there from a purely civilian organisation. Is no fireman ever to risk his life? Reduce the risks taken by having proper training and equipment, of course, but no risk at all?

All I can say is thank the Lord that the RNLI are a voluntary force. Otherwise the lifeboats would never put to sea in a storm.

 

 

7 comments on “Not Sure They\’ve Quite Got This Public Service Bit Yet.

  1. Just another in a long line of examples where it would seem that the people writing these guidelines completely miss the point of the risk assessment process.

    It is to apply identify hazards and apply mitigating measures to reduce the risk level, where possible, to ALARP (as low as reasonably practicable), whilst (and this is the bit they seem to miss) still allowing the beneficial activity to continue.

    You can bet your life that the RNLI has done very thorough risk assessments on what it does, and that these are revisited regularly to see what new risk mitigation can be added, and this is then designed into the new boats etc.

    Most heath and safety professionals despair at the idiocy displayed in these sort of stories, and the knock on effect of them.

  2. On Friday Radio 4 ‘Feedback’ had a section concerning the reporting of this story by “PM” and then John Hymphries on “Today”. The complainant (a person with life saving skills), said that the police arrived after the boy had disappeared under the water, which was dark. He thought that under those circumstances the PSC did the right thing and was angry that the BBC was critical of the H&S culture.

    {I don’t report this because I agree with this}

  3. Most heath and safety professionals despair at the idiocy displayed in these sort of stories, and the knock on effect of them.

    Damn right.

    And finally I’ve found somebody else on a blog who knows what ALARP is.

  4. “The complainant (a person with life saving skills), said that the police arrived after the boy had disappeared under the water, which was dark. He thought that under those circumstances the PSC did the right thing….”

    Yes, I’ve seen that point of view expressed on several comments other blogs too. Yet the first policeman on the scene is said to have stripped off his body armour and gone in.

    Why did he do this? It can’t be because he was ‘trained’, if this is the prevailing opinion on the circumstances from other poeple with lifesaving skills. And he either got the go-ahead from Control to do so, or ignored orders not to, with presumably no comeback?

    Or perhaps he is just a human being like the 60 and 63 year old fisherman who are reported to have dived in to help. I’m not sure what the PCSOs are, not how they sleep at night….

  5. “I’m not sure what the PCSOs are, not how they sleep at night….”

    Brainwashed by 10 years of lying fucking scum socialists, thats what they are…

    “We’re a couple of decades away from a police force that won’t come to your aid but will punish those that do.”

    Decades? I thought we were there already…

    Did you not see that story last week about the chap who stopped to help someone involved in an accident on the motorway and ended up beaten and arrested??

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