Cruel and unusual punishment

An execution in Ohio was delayed for a week last night after prison technicians failed to find veins suitable for a lethal injection in the arms of a convicted child killer.

Romell Broom, sentenced to death for raping and murdering a 14-year-old girl in 1984, was due to die yesterday afternoon at Lucasville prison in southern Ohio. The state’s governor intervened after a two-hour struggle to insert the intravenous tubes required for a lethal injection into his arms.

I realise that  might not meet the legal standard but it certainly meets the standard of cruel and unusual punishment to me. A two hour execution process which then fails?

18 comments on “Cruel and unusual punishment

  1. No: the cruel thing is that this chap was held under the imminent threat that he would be executed for TWENTY FOUR YEARS before they actually got around to it.

    Worse still is that, although this is undoubtedly cruel, it is not in the least unusual.

  2. I agree, it is ridiculous a) that this guy should have been given so many appeals and b) that the authorities in Ohio were not able to find a more effective method of carrying out the sentence. Incidentally, any information on how long the girl he murdered suffered her ordeal for?

  3. “any information on how long the girl he murdered suffered her ordeal for?”

    Any information on whether he got a fair trial and is actually guilty?

    I find it almost funny that people who snort derisively at the idea that the government can regulate the banking system think that somehow the decisions of an incompetent and politicised judicial system can be trusted to determine whether someone should be killed or not.

  4. This must be a world over flowing with love for a surplus to be expended on a murdering rapist and paedophile . Personally I am more upset by the fact my tie and shirt is a slightly is, on reflection a,n overly cheeky combination…dear dear …what was I thinking ….

  5. “Any information on whether he got a fair trial and is actually guilty?”

    Any information on whether he didn’t? I’m sure, in 24 years, that he’s pretty much exhausted all his appeals.

    And if there were any doubts, no matter how faint, I’m sure the odious Clive Stafford-Smith would have shown up to grandstand for his five minutes of publicity.

  6. hypoxia – extreme altitude sickness is the way to go, you will find it pleasurable too.

    “society and individuals must act in such a way that you can will that your actions become a universal law for all to follow” Kant

  7. @Martin: even if he’s guilty, why the fuck does it matter how much his victim suffered? I’m glad that the society I live in operates, morally, at a higher level than a murdering paedophile. If Americans would sooner operate at the same level, that’s their call I guess.

    @JuliaM: yes, there is: the police concealed evidence at his trial; the Appeal Court has said that this evidence can be presented to the trial court to determine whether it would be sufficient grounds for a retrial; but because the US is a crazy and evil place, they’re allowed to top him while they’re waiting for this to happen.

    And I’m not surprised that, as a man who’s devoted his life to campaigning for justice and against barbarism, you find Clive S-S ‘odious’: that’s par for the course with anyone who’s as opposed to justice and fond of barbarism as you.

    But as it happens, he’s moved back to the UK to campaign against torture and illegal detention worldwide, so his lack of involvement in this case doesn’t prove anything either way.

  8. So, the US is a ‘crazy and evil place’, is it?

    You don’t normally let the mask slip so easily. Are you well? 😉

    “And I’m not surprised that, as a man who’s devoted his life to campaigning for justice and against barbarism, you find Clive S-S ‘odious…’”

    No, that’s not why I find him odious, actually. But thanks for playing.

    “But as it happens, he’s moved back to the UK to campaign against torture and illegal detention worldwide, so his lack of involvement in this case doesn’t prove anything either way.”

    Didn’t stop him capering in front of the world’s media over the Trafalgar Square deathrow woman, did it?

    Perhaps that’s what this chap needs to do to get some Stafford-Smith lovin’…

  9. I’m glad that the society I live in operates, morally, at a higher level than a murdering paedophile.

    Preaching again are we Reverend B ? Lets see,we serve Rose West Breakfast every day as a reward for serial rape torture murder incarceration including of her own children .In what way does playing scrabble in a comfy cell and whining about your sausages constitute justice in this case and by what right do you forgive her ?
    If morality has anything to do with justice and is not merely the inchoate infantile empathy of a fucking child for its fucking pet bunny rabbit then the barbarian , as if any evidence was required , is you.

  10. “Lets see,we serve Rose West Breakfast every day as a reward for serial rape torture murder incarceration including of her own children”

    Not much reward, is it? Next you’ll be telling us water is too good for them.

    You seem to be channelling the DT blog comments today. In which case, it’s about time you referred to Sharia law and unchecked immigration. And the EUSSR. Or something.

  11. Not much reward, is it? Next you’ll be telling us water is too good for them.

    Life is too good for her , torrential immigration has indeed been a catastrophic con and a social disaster , the Islamic population are a problem ,and if you cannot see that dumping a referendum on the grounds it would have been lost is problematical, then you would probably have liked the USSR .

  12. John B: The link you give to show that his trial was unfair does not, in fact, show that. It does not claim that important police records were shielded from the jury. It claims only that the accused’s lawyers have made that claim, which is what all lawyers do. Not all records are presented to the jury or to the defense — only those that are relevant.

    The lawyers need to show that these records would have changed the course of the trial. They say they do not have the time, but it has been 24 years now.

    BTW, I am unalterably opposed to the death penalty.

  13. Kay Tie – “Any information on whether he got a fair trial and is actually guilty?”

    I think there is a reasonable presumption in America that he did, in fact, get a fair trial. And even that he is guilty. This is not Brazil we are talking about.

    “I find it almost funny that people who snort derisively at the idea that the government can regulate the banking system think that somehow the decisions of an incompetent and politicised judicial system can be trusted to determine whether someone should be killed or not.”

    The problem is we need to regulate crimes, especially the murder of young children. We do not need to regulate banking. At least not in the half-arsed incompetent way we do it. We cannot let all murderers off because we might make a mistake. We will make mistakes. The innocent will suffer, no matter what system we have. We still need to punish people we think are guilty. I see no reason not to punish them with death. It results in fewer injustices in the long run.

  14. “I realise that might not meet the legal standard but it certainly meets the standard of cruel and unusual punishment to me. “

    On that basis thousands of hospitals are torturing patients on a daily basis.

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