Does Obama understand what he\’s talking about?

I\’m really not sure he does you know:

The president then made the conceptual leap from an innovative plant in rural Florida to a bold new landscape of energy for all of America. “We can imagine the day,” he said, “when you’ll be able to charge the battery on your plug-in hybrid car at night, because your smart meter reminded you that nighttime electricity is cheapest. In the daytime, when the sun is at its strongest, solar panels like these and electricity stored in car batteries will be able to power the grid with affordable, emission-free energy.

For, of course, if we\’re going to power the grid with electricity from solar cells then electricity will be cheaper in the daytime. We\’ll be draining those car batteries at night rather than charging them…..

13 comments on “Does Obama understand what he\’s talking about?

  1. Surely the price consumers pay will reflect the level of demand, which may be lower at night, regardless of the costs of production?

  2. Judge is right – although if there’s a sharp distinction between day and night costs of production, it’s not obvious whether demand side considerations will be powerful enough.

    Depends on available energy storage tech, I guess.

    Tim adds: In the model being discussed those car batteries *are* the storage technology.

  3. yes, of course, I’m not thinking … demand patterns will shift, Obama is wrong, I think, to be saying nighttime elec will be cheaper.

  4. Blasphemers remember: Obama is never wrong.

    Besides, we’re going to be working day and night to pay for our new, improved health care. That will certainly shift demand patterns in and of itself.

  5. Dennis Remember rule Number one, Incentives matter.

    Government Healthcare incentivises people not to worry about looking after their own health.

    This obviously means that this will improve the health of the nation.

  6. electricity stored in car batteries will be able to power the grid with affordable, emission-free energy

    I must be missing something here. Why on earth would I want the grid to take energy from my car battery during the day? If it is a cloudy day with little wind, will I find my battery is flat at 6.00pm when it is time to go home?

    Also, I charge the car at home, so I pay for the electricity. I plug my car in at work (or on the street somewhere) and the grid takes the electricity back. How do I get paid? And at what rate? Equal to what I paid last night? 2x? 100x?

  7. “I must be missing something here. Why on earth would I want the grid to take energy from my car battery during the day?”

    To punish you for the sin of owning a car in the first place, naturally!

  8. It’s ‘vehicle-to-grid’. It’s not utter madness, as managing electricty generation and consumption is poorly done at the moment. But it’s some way off.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-to-grid

    Tim adds: Please note that I’ve not said it’s madness, just that it would reverse the day/night peak/low demand, thus making Obama’s statement untrue.

  9. Isn’t this just a variation of what Denmark is proposing/attempting to do? I’m all for letting them spend the $ to create the infrastructure and finding out if it works first 😉

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