9 comments on “Greek protests pass the Godwin\’s Limit

  1. Here’s hoping they simply know what buttons to press in Germany. Although I think it is more likely that they are just Ottomans really and so prone to the say hysterical over-exaggeration the rest of the Middle East is. Give them back to the Turks.

    That said, I did quite like Merkel in her SS uniform

  2. It’s the modern way. Being required to pay for what you consume is the same as Nazi oppression.

  3. What does P. J. O’Rourke say about being called a Nazi? That he finds it a compliment as no one ever fantasises about being tied up and ravished by someone dressed as a liberal (American terminology of course).

  4. If they were smart they’d be expressing their gratitude for nearly 30 years of handouts. But they’re thick so they prefer to bite the hand that’s fed them.
    They are thick, aren’t they? But then so are the bankers, CEOs and others in London and elsewhere who think they can carry on as if everything will soon revert to normal – because their arrogance makes it less likely that things will revert to “normal”.
    Except at the very basic level – laws of supply and demand &c – there are really no economic certainties at the moment and those who act as if there are, are very likely to be disappointed.

  5. RichardPowell – “If they were smart they’d be expressing their gratitude for nearly 30 years of handouts. But they’re thick so they prefer to bite the hand that’s fed them.”

    But in the modern world, gratitude gets you nothing at all. Anger works. Anger will get you even more money. As can be seen by the fact that in Britain we do not spend on the deserving but the vocally livid. The homosexual lobby is an utterly insignificant group of people – fewer than 2% of British people think they are Gay. Fewer that they are lesbians. But because they are so vocal and so angry, they get an utterly disproportionate share of pretty much everything.

    The Greeks are doing it right. Shameless demands coupled with righteous anger works.

  6. Uhm, I could be upset and angry but I’m not, because all of you previous commentators are victims of the biggest propaganda ever launched: Against the lazy greeks who are getting bailed out. Funnily, the previous sentence has more than two lies in it:
    Firstly, Even though Greece suffers from structural problems that inhibit growth and maintain a system in which public employees are being hired by governments in order to secure their re-election, it still is ranked by the OECD higher than many northern “developed” countries (Germany included) in the total annual working hours, and lower in the total number of holidays per year. The typical greek saw his salary getting reduced by an average of 40% last 2 years, while food prices, gas, oil, remain where they were before the crisis (and in some cases get higher).
    Greece is being transformed to a Guatemala, a 2001 Argentina with the IMF’s internal devaluation system which has failed horribly everytime and everywhere it was applied.
    Secondly, using the word “bailout” to describe high-interest loans provided by the IMF and the ECB does nothing but distort the facts: We entered the “support mechanism” in 2009, when our dept/GPD was around 120%, within two years of “support” our debt reached something like 170%. Thanks EU/IMF!
    Even on times of crises, countries which are lending us money, are MAKING money.
    One forms the impression these loans go to the pockets of lazy-ass greek employees who use the money to .. party or drink OUZO. But that’s what mass media propaganda does to you. A taste of soviet propaganda in the 70’s.
    The loans we’re given are being shoved to our behinds so that we keep paying our old debt towards private banks mainly German and French ones. We are being forced to be “saved”.
    Isn’t it sad for someone to hear simple people like you support private bankers with their big fat bonuses and gazillions in profits against a small country – a country like Greece who has a history of contribution to mankind, with the highest death toll in the 2nd world war and possibly the beginning of the end for the NAZI army (delaying their troops made them end up in USSR by winter).
    And you know what, if I were you, I’d support Greeks now. Why? Because next one is you: The Irish, who’re being the “good boy” for past two years, just to end up with the exact same problems we have: Unemployement, growth is not coming, poor/rich gap getting wider… France, where new austerity measures are being under way, Portugal, Spain, Italy…
    And before you know it, Herman Cain will be president. And if you think that’s fine, then I guess we got nothing to talk about.

  7. Not quite sure what Cain has got to do with anything, but then again, your thinking is a bit confused.

    Greece chose to join the euro and live above its means, now the bailiff is at the door. Spare us the tears, we will be paying for YOUR profligacy through our savings/pension/livelihood/etc…at best.

  8. George Katsanos – “it still is ranked by the OECD higher than many northern “developed” countries (Germany included) in the total annual working hours, and lower in the total number of holidays per year.”

    Well so they claim. How do we know it is true? We are relying on Greek self reporting here which is not their strong suit.

    “Greece is being transformed to a Guatemala, a 2001 Argentina with the IMF’s internal devaluation system which has failed horribly everytime and everywhere it was applied.”

    No it is not. It is being returned to reality – that it is about on par with Bulgaria in terms of its economic output. It has been able to live above its means thanks to the British tax payers, but not for much longer. If Greeks don’t produce much, why should they get my money?

    “We entered the “support mechanism” in 2009, when our dept/GPD was around 120%, within two years of “support” our debt reached something like 170%. Thanks EU/IMF!”

    Because the Greek government is only playing at reforms. It is not actually doing anything.

    “Even on times of crises, countries which are lending us money, are MAKING money.”

    Yeah. Funny that people who actually make stuff, stuff that real people want to buy, can actually make money. The Greeks ought to try it sometime.

    “One forms the impression these loans go to the pockets of lazy-ass greek employees who use the money to .. party or drink OUZO. But that’s what mass media propaganda does to you. A taste of soviet propaganda in the 70?s.”

    That’s funny. So we learn today that Greece has more registered Porsche Cayennes than tax payers who admit to earning more than 50,000 euros a year.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ianmcowie/100012894/fast-cars-and-loose-fiscal-morals-there-are-more-porsches-in-greece-than-taxpayers-declaring-50000-euro-incomes/

    We know where our money is going and it is not going to poor long suffering Greeks.

    “Isn’t it sad for someone to hear simple people like you support private bankers with their big fat bonuses and gazillions in profits against a small country”

    No it isn’t. I would rather save the banks than fat, lazy, over paid Greek civil servants. The banks provide a useful service. They make the world a better place. Neither of those is true of the Greek civil service.

    “a country like Greece who has a history of contribution to mankind”

    Two and a half thousand years ago. What have the half-Turkish, half-Slavic people of modern Greece done for us lately?

    “with the highest death toll in the 2nd world war”

    No. Not in absolute terms, not as a percentage of its population.

    “and possibly the beginning of the end for the NAZI army (delaying their troops made them end up in USSR by winter).”

    Actually that has been thoroughly disproved.

    “And you know what, if I were you, I’d support Greeks now. Why? Because next one is you”

    We can but hope.

    “The Irish, who’re being the “good boy” for past two years, just to end up with the exact same problems we have: Unemployement, growth is not coming, poor/rich gap getting wider…”

    But their economic growth is picking up. Their reforms – and they have reformed, unlike the Greeks – are working.

    “France, where new austerity measures are being under way, Portugal, Spain, Italy…”

    Excellent news.

    “And before you know it, Herman Cain will be president. And if you think that’s fine, then I guess we got nothing to talk about.”

    I would prefer Perry but Cain is fine by me too.

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