More men are raped than women in the US

Well, OK, maybe, maybe this is true.

In order for it to be true or not true we\’ve got to start wibbling around the edges of what is in fact rape, what is sexual assault and so on. Meaning that if we\’re wibbling around these sorts of definitions then we\’re about right in terms of orders of magnitude at least.

What\’s happening is, of course, that we\’re adding the rape statistics for men in prison to the gross numbers for the society as a whole.

To which a couple of things might be added: the state is clearly failing in its duty of care to those that are in its care. Indeed, one way of reading the numbers is that it is the prison guards themselves doing a lot of the raping (according to standard rape doctrine the imbalance of power there makes it impossible that there could ever be a consensual sexual relationship in such situations).

The other is that, well, where are the \”Take Back the Cells\” marches? Or is it OK that some tax evader gets his bum split but not OK that frat pledges shout \”No means Yes\”?

5 comments on “More men are raped than women in the US

  1. This has got me puzzled. OK, I blame my own stupidity for actually reading a Guardian article but……..
    The writer is discussing the avoidance of prison rape:
    “….inevitability is tempered by the perceived ability to prevent rape if you just do things “right” – don’t commit a crime so that you end up in jail,…”
    Seems a fair assumption. But not in the Guardian because we are then told:
    “For populations with high incarceration rates, “doing things right” also requires constant vigilance, and an understanding of oneself as perceived as inherently criminal; it keeps entire communities fearful, resentful, and unable to seek the protection of the police; and it inhibits freedom of movement and expression and speech.”
    Now, as far as I can work out from that, actually being honest enough to stay out of jail is unreasonable curtailment of individual freedom.

    Uh?

  2. “It is the prison guards themselves doing a lot of the raping (according to standard rape doctrine the imbalance of power there makes it impossible that there could ever be a consensual sexual relationship in such situations).”
    I did try to point out that this would be the case between, say, a director of a global bank and a cleaning lady, but I got short shrift from the frogs. It used to be just “Une affaire de moeurs” and each to his own.
    The General Medical Council is very hot on this sort of thing, but it does seem as if the French are finally catching up, DSK still being on remand as I write.

  3. This whole “imbalance of power” thing would also apply between, say, a President and a young intern…

  4. You do know, Tim, that Glenn Reynolds over at InstaPundit has been tracking this issue for a few years now, right? It might be worth having a squint at his archives…

  5. I think the figures on prison rape are probably grossly over-exaggerated. But it should not ever happen. Coerced sex is another matter. Which also should never happen but is harder to prove.

    There is an easy solution for this though. Won’t get rid of the problem but will certainly reduce it:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105035/Germany-rejects-demand-stop-castrating-sex-criminals-punishment.html

    Now that is what I call a moral dilemma for the nice people at the Guardian. This is a bad thing when nasty Angl0-Saxons do it. But everyone knows the Europeans are so much more nice and civilised than Americans. So how can it be bad when they do it?

    (Actually I was totally surprised the Germans do this. I mean, really? Who would have thunk it?)

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