Good luck with this law

Since 2006, patronizing prostitution is a crime when committed by service members under article 134 of the US military\’s criminal law (the uniform code of military justice).

Sirsly?

A law to stop squaddies shagging tarts?

17 comments on “Good luck with this law

  1. “Since 2006, patronizing prostitution is a crime…”

    Surely, there must be some way they could nail Julie Bindel under this one. Even Harriet Harperson at a pinch.

    I’d be all for special rendition….

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    Apart from the awful subbing…The writer admits that the law is written in the US Military Code. The CIA is not subject to the Code. The whole piece is predicated on RMurphy’s Law: ‘The law should be what I think it should be, not, in fact, what it is’

  3. OOPS! Missed out between the brackets… (awful subbing)

    ‘There’s more than national security involved in the secret service prostitution scandal. If the US military code of justice means what it says, buying women in prostitution anyplace is a crime for US servicemen. It should also be a crime for other federal agents.’

  4. The writer admits that the law is written in the US Military Code. The CIA is not subject to the Code.

    What CIA? The Secret Service, perhaps. Anyway.

    Apparently this change in the UCMJ was brought on by an embarrassing incident involving a senior officer, in Pristina, in a GRU run brothel, just outside Film City.

    is a crime for US servicemen. It should also be a crime for other federal agents

    Of course, US servicemen are not “federal agents”. A surprisingly large number of them are not even federal employees.

    whether these women might be victims of trafficking and commercial sexual exploitation.

    Conflation of three different things – victims (rather than volunteers – even volunteers making the least worst choice through poverty); trafficking – again can be voluntary; and commercial sexual exploitation. That they were the latter, is undoubted. Assuming the lefty world-view that all workers are exploited.

    Disclaimer – I have been in numerous strip clubs and at least one brothel with members of the US forces. All prior to 2006, I hasten to add.

  5. Unintended consequences alert! Don’t they get even more problems when squaddies on tour try shagging the local amateur talent?

  6. Is that because in these ‘enlightened’ times squaddies should be more comfortable with shagging each other?

  7. The article is wrong in that article 134 of the UCMJ does not specifically prohibit patronizing prostitutes – its the article that make illegal any action that is prejudicial to good order and discipline.

    All the services have issued orders that say that using prostitutes is prejudicial to good order and discipline, thereby effectively making it illegal without having to amend the UCMJ.

    In addition offenders will usually be charged with violating article 92 – failure to obey a lawful order.

    Civilians *can* be subject to the UCMJ, but this is usually if they are operating within a combat zone and haven’t been given an exemption.

    I’m sure none of this applies to the SS component of the Prez’ detail but, at the same time there’s been an executive order in place that prohibits federal employees from doing the same. Heck, right now there’s an executive order in place that prohibits federal employees from speeding (in addition to regular laws).

  8. And the change in policy has more to do with the USG buying into the hype that all sex work is sex slavery and pretty much nothing to do with concerns of security and personnel compromise.

  9. Just out of interest, excluding news reporters, who is going to tell command that members of the armed forces are using prostitutes?
    Chatting up the local birds doesn’t have the same stigma perhaps – for the military. Whether the local girls have problems…..

  10. Just out of interest, excluding news reporters, who is going to tell command that members of the armed forces are using prostitutes?

    There are sneaks, squealers, monkeys, rat-catchers, snowdrops and red-caps everywhere.

    Oh, and an awful lot of squaddies are thick as mince and will quite happily tell their OC exactly what they’ve been up to at the weekend. And when their OC goes “no, no, don’t tell me any more. I really don’t need to know this!” will quite happily keep on digging themselves into official shite until the platoon or troop sergeant drags them off screaming “but I was just chatting to the Boss”.

    Disclaimer: any resemblance this dit might have to any of the numerous eegits who I’ve been technically or actually responsible for in the past is entirely non-coincidental. Sig M – you’re up front and centre.

  11. Sorry, slang dictionary:

    Monkeys & Red Caps – Royal Military Police

    Rat Catchers – Submariner slang for the Royal Naval Regulating Branch. Called “reggies” or “bastards” by the rest of the Navy.

    Snowdrops – RAF police.

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