Tee hee

Julian Assange supporters ordered to forfeit £93,500 bail money

Payments must be made within a month by nine friends and backers who originally promised to pay £140,000

You verily pays your money and takes your choice.

21 comments on “Tee hee

  1. It is annoying that so many of these ar$es got a discount. It better be normal practice rather than special one-off favour for members of our ruling class, but why should Philip Knightly or anyone else get away with losing a penny less than they promised?

    I saw Vaughan Smith’s home and I doubt that the full whack would have caused him much hardship. Not that I care if it did. How much luck do normal people have going in to argue they can’t afford their tax bill or their TV licence fee?

  2. Assange just became that much more of an insurance risk. He might fantasise about the CIA being after him, personally I’d be more worried about the former friends he screwed over…

  3. I agree with you SMFS. Why the discounts? Their arguments were pathetic, and the court pulled them to pieces. It’s no different to being guarantor on a loan. You don’t get to plead hardship there either.

    “We feel we’ve done our bit,”

    Diddums. You could have withdrawn the surety when you’d done enough and either some other sucker would have stepped up or he would have been re-arrested. You stay in the game, you pay the price.

  4. I am mystefied about this discount, unless the remainder is to be paid by others who did not take part in this action.

    Anyway, hello Lefties, welcome consequences for perhaps the first time in your wealthy comfortable lives.

  5. “He might fantasise about the CIA being after him”

    I wouldn’t for sure but surely its a fuck of alot easier to get extradition from the UK than Sweden ie the place that send a pretty much innocent webhost and slightly less innocent autistic computer hacker to the US on terrorism laws.

    Me thinks Assange is scared of living at the exceptionally generous Swedish tax payers expense.

  6. ukliberty, I read the full judgement at your link. I may have misunderstood but if you were trying to justify the discounts then forget it.

    “The sureties were kept informed and would have known, or could have discovered, that they could withdraw”

    As I said, they could have withdrawn. He let them off very lightly by reducing the amount payable. Read between the lines (not even between, Howard Riddle wasn’t even a bit discreet in his opinion that they were well-meaning idiots) and basically he was saying “I have to demand something but I’ll take your financial situation into account. Even though you’re a dickhead”.

  7. “I approach this decision on the basis that I should forfeit no more than is necessary, in public policy, to maintain the integrity and confidence of the system of taking sureties so that a person may be released on bail”

    In other words, you got fucked over but I have to punish you anyway. I’ll make it as painless as possible.

    Wrong decision. They should have been held to their promise. He made the point several times that they were informed of the consequences.

  8. Do you think I’d get 25% discount if I put up £20K towards the bail for ‘Big’ Ron Hardman, notorious armed bank robber, who then did a bunk to S. America?

    Thought not.

  9. These guys have now proved that they are hopeless judges of character who can’t be relied upon to honour a contract.

    Lets hope that the fall out means that their personal credibility is now shot and that they lose any credit rating they had and that they are removed from positions of influence, especially where tax payers money is involved.

    Lets hope none of them are in a position to be able to sign passport statements as well, that also requires judgement of character.

    I’m not holding my breath though.

  10. I don’t see much to laugh about in this, Assange overstepped the mark and the yanks are going fuck him good, some lefties (are they all) have lost some bail, and in the end the state is going to assert its control over us and what we are permitted to know. At best a silver lining, nothing to celebrate.

  11. I’m with ltw: “Wrong decision. They should have been held to their promise. He made the point several times that they were informed of the consequences.”

    Still, better £15K then £0K…

  12. These guys have now proved that they are hopeless judges of character who can’t be relied upon to honour a contract.

    a, possibly. b, no: a bail surety is a promise to pay *up to* the total amount at the court’s discretion.

    There’s nothing in any sense wrong with asking the court to use its discretion to charge you less; indeed anyone who did otherwise would be a complete fool.

  13. Still, these people are shot of him by paying up. Pity those in the Ecuadorian Embassy, who will have to live with him indefinitely. It must take the shine off the London placement.

  14. Oh, come on. They got to have a photo-op with Lady Gaga yesterday, who is undeniably cute whatever you reckon to her music.

    Being in the Ecuadorian embassy in London would be monumentally dull under normal circumstances; as it is, they’ve got a slight amount of glamour, and all they need to to is provide house room to a weird Aussie nerd.

    As long as none of the ladies are daft enough to share a bed “we’re just sharing a bed, I respect that” with him, which seems unlikely.

  15. The Ecuador guys are welcome to him. Given their abysmal human rights record, the hypocrisy of all this is classic.

  16. @ Ltw
    Not quite – more a case of I’ll make it painful enough for you to think twice next time but I won’t completely ruin those of you who would be bust if I held you to the terms. Unfortunately the tabloids reported it as them getting let off while Jemima Khan et al handed over their pocket money.

  17. ukliberty, I read the full judgement at your link. I may have misunderstood but if you were trying to justify the discounts then forget it.

    you asked “why the discounts?” so I linked to the judgement, which gives the magistrate’s reasons.

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