20 comments on “The SWP laughfest continues

  1. The Left

    1) In favour of women’s rights unless the leaders want to abuse their power
    2) In favour of free speech unless the leaders want to abuse their power
    3) In favour of peace unless the leaders want to abuse their power
    4) Anti imperialist unless the empire is a communist one
    5) In favour of gay rights unless courting an alliance for Palestine
    6) In favour of living wages except for those in re-education camps

  2. @Surreptitious Evil
    I could hardly understand that site. So many high faultin’ words that attempt to sound like complex ideas when in reality there is no idea behind any of it. Brainless.

  3. Is that a real site or a parody?

    I have no idea at all. Even at Uni all the trots stayed away from me because I was an imperialist warmongering babykiller …

    However, judging by the comments on SocialistUnity and Lenin’s Tomb (which are clearly genuine trot sites – for some distortion of the word ‘genuine’), Poe’s Law, Corollary and Paradox all clearly apply to trots as well as to fundies.

  4. So many high faultin’ words that attempt to sound like complex ideas when in reality there is no idea behind any of it.

    That’s mild. Read the comments under the article Tim posted earlier.

    I’m certain this is a (set of?) shibboleth to allow you to identify between trots, marxists, pinkos, SWPers at 50 paces so you don’t sully your ideological purity by being exposed to anything that looks even vaguely like a new idea.

  5. China Mieville is a great writer, though.

    Oh, that’s so hilarious that it must be meant ironically. Anyone who can wibble on at length with such a conspicuous lack of concrete nouns is no great writer. Jeez Louise, it’s only marginally better than those descriptions you see in an art exhibit.

  6. China (The BBC love me) Mieville’s article is calling for a revolution inside a revolutionary party.

    Hilarious.

    What’s the position of those other BBC SWP favourites: Michael Rosen and Mark Steele?

  7. The best bit is where he complains that the SWP (the party he chose to join) is top-down, authoritarian and undemocratic.

    Err… yes. That’s what the SWP (and their hero, Lenin) would call a feature not a bug.

    He’s a bright boy, China.

  8. So, Thomas, you’ve read his books then?

    The infighting is no surprise. Jesus, just look at the right-wing vitriol towards its own.

    Look at Worstall wanting to hang people that are only a shade away from his deluded reality.

  9. “What’s the position of those other BBC SWP favourites: Michael Rosen and Mark Steele?”

    I think Mark Steele jumped from that sinking ship a couple of years ago.

  10. I have to agree with Arnald to a degree here – China Mieville is a horror Fiction writer of some standing – like many in literary circles his politics are on the extreme Left but that shouldn’t necessarily detract from the quality of his books.

    I think the article Tim is linking to verges on self-parody, however, and as he points out, the SWP, craven apologists for mass murder and the deaths of 150 million people, have no credibility to destroy.

  11. PSThomas

    I hadn’t been paying attention to the SWP kerfuffle Worstall deemed to be “laughable”, that’s because everyone knows that ‘catch all militancy’ can only create hostile divisions.

    It’s not news really, when you consider the divisions between those that make actual decisions.

    I have a feeling , in that article, that Mieville was caging issues because of personal ties within his chosen cause. He is an erudite and convicted speaker, and an individual.

    That article was entirely correct for what is was intended. Ideas: Creativity. Individuality: Liberty.

    Yeah, I thought it was a bit shit, but then he is the best pusher of a section of post Moorcock imagineering.

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