I don’t think I believe this story

Tablets costing just 2p each could be a new treatment for men with erection problems. New research suggests the medicine, called metformin, could boost a man’s performance in the bedroom.

The drug has been widely used on the NHS for many years to treat patients with type 2 diabetes.

But now scientists think it may also work as an alternative to anti-impotence drugs such as Viagra or Cialis.

Laboratory tests at the Georgia Health Sciences University in the U.S. show the diabetes drug boosts erectile function by relaxing blood vessels in the genital area, allowing blood to flow more freely into the penis.

Although it has yet to be tested in humans, it could quickly emerge as a new treatment because it is readily available, extremely cheap and has an excellent safety record.

Not that I know anything about pharmaceuticals of course.

But one of the conditions one can get a prescription for Viagra for is type 2 diabetes. And if the drug that is regularly used to treat type 2 diabetes gives you a raging hard on then they wouldn’t be needing to prescribe Viagra to those with type 2 diabetes, would they?

13 comments on “I don’t think I believe this story

  1. And if the drug that is regularly used to treat type 2 diabetes gives you a raging hard on then they wouldn’t be needing to prescribe Viagra to those with type 2 diabetes, would they?

    I am not sure of the logic of that. Maybe not everyone with Type 2 Diabetes gets the drug? Or maybe they were approved at different times when the other was not available?

    I would think that if Drug A worked for Condition A and also caused hard ons, then there is a reasonable chance that if Drug B also works for Condition A then it might too cause hard ons.

    But Viagra is out of protection now. It can be made and sold as a generic. How far off 2 p could it cost?

  2. Pharmaceutical manufacturing costs can be very low depending on volume produced but a few cents per individual pill is not unreasonable. Richard Sykes is renowned for standing on a platform and holding up a pill and saying this pill cost $0.1 to make but the first one cost us $1.5b.

  3. I’m absolutely certain that this story is bollocks, for the simple reason that I’ve been on metformin for the past six months and I can assure you (from the safety of anonymity) that it has no effect on erections at all. More’s the pity.

  4. Viagra is not indicated for treatment of type 2 diabetes. It is used for erectile dysfunction, which is an established complication of type 2 diabetes.

    Unwanted erection is not listed as a known adverse effect of metformin (incidentally Viagra was first developed for angina and the erections were a side-effect), so I really doubt that metformin (unlike Viagra is off-patent everywhere, so who is going to pay for the research that 100,000 generic companies can then profit from?) is going to make it as a sex-enabler.

    2p a pill (film-coated tablet actually) sounds about right for a bucket-chemistry active ingredient.

  5. “Viagra is not indicated for treatment of type 2 diabetes. ”

    No-one said it was. Tim merely pointed out that diabetics can get Viagra on prescription, because erectile disfunction is a recognised medical complication for diabetics. Ergo its unlikely that another drug that is currently prescribed for treating diabetes has the side effect of creating raging hard ons, as diabetics would have no need for Viagra then would they?

  6. @Jim, yes, Tim said it was:

    “But one of the conditions one can get a prescription for Viagra for is type 2 diabetes. “

  7. Perhaps, and this is an uninformed guess, it could be that the drug is prescribed in lower concentrations for diabetics than would be required for the tent-pole effect. It may also be that increased dosage would be detrimental to diabetics so they get Viagra instead.

    Like I say, a guess.

  8. Its bullshit. I have been on metformin for 14 yrs with, unfortunately, no such effect. And dosages much higher than those prescribed for diabetes wreck your kidneys.

  9. @JamesV: yes, because erectile disfunction is a recognised medical problem for diabetics. Ergo doctors will prescribe Viagra for them on the NHS when they would not prescribe it similarly for others. But they aren’t prescribing it for their diabetes, its for their erectile problems instead.

  10. More poor reporting.

    1. Type 2 diabetes can cause erectile dysfunction.
    2. Viagra is prescribed but maybe ineffective in insulin resistent men.
    3. A clinical trial has shown that Viagra PLUS Metformin can make Viagra work more effectively in such cases.
    4. Metformin on its own is not a substitute for Viagra.

  11. “Laboratory tests at the Georgia Health Sciences University in the U.S. show the diabetes drug boosts erectile function by relaxing blood vessels in the genital area, allowing blood to flow more freely into the penis.”

    Bollocks, and they’ve got it arse backwards as well.

    You get a hard on from muscles which impede venous blood from returning from the penis. More blood, more hard on. There are no restrictions on arteries, there are many on veins, ask anyone with varicose veins.

  12. Dunno about erectile dysfunction, but metformin is notorious for giving you a really good attack of the shits.

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