A Guardian question we can answer

Could rationing hold the key to today’s food crises?

No, fuck off.

Contrast that with food banks today: obviously the situation is slightly different, since the scarcity is not of food but of money, and it has been wilfully created by the government by unjust benefit sanctions and maladministration. Nevertheless, people are hungry, and rather than answer that with a call to act collectively, to sacrifice collectively, we are asked to maybe give a tin of kidney beans as we pass through Tesco,

And what the fuck’s wrong with voluntary collective action rather than State enforced collective action?

21 comments on “A Guardian question we can answer

  1. Strongly suspect but can’t prove that the ‘foodbank crisis’ is social workers ensuring that demand meets supply rather than the other way around.

  2. Oh my word, this article happens to be coming out at exactly the same time as those charity posters; what a coincidence; NOT.

  3. Food banks have nothing to do with food and everything to do with electoral and media positioning as a precursor to power.

  4. And tomorrow’s headline: “Supermarkets wasting food”, along with a big lament about how our nasty materialistic society is raping the earth by making far more than we need. With no doubt the first moronic comment being that of course, that is how they make their profits. Followed by the second argument for rationing.

  5. Where do people think the food banks get a chunk of their food from? The supermarkets.
    And food the food banks cannot get rid of quick enough is dropped off with other charities who provide food.

  6. Food banks enable the welfare state to remain shit. A second, lower down, safety net covers for the times the state cocks up benefits. The spin is always that increased use of food banks is a terrible indictment of the coalition, means more poverty due to ‘cuts’ and that the welfare state needs more money but what it really is is evidence that the welfare state is bad at its job.

    I did not know until recently that many food banks work on referrals. They use the state to filter out the chancers for them and let doctors, social workers and the like send people their way. I had naively assumed that they were doing that job of saying yes or no themselves. It is really only one or two steps removed from handing people benefits in the form of a food box rather than cash that then gets spent on fags and booze.

  7. Amazing how many people are nostalgic about the 1940s.

    Ah! The cameraderie of being gassed, shot at or bombed! The pleasures of a little light prostitution to ensure availability of the Sunday joint!

  8. What food crises would these be? I haven’t seen much evidence of rickets or kwashiorkor on the streets of Britain.

    And wasn’t it just five minutes ago Guardianista fucknuts were telling us there was an obesity epidemic?

    This one’s a beezer: “But more important is that point about prices – all markets favour the rich.”

    Quite so comrade Williams. That would be why the downtrodden poor can’t afford smartphones and laptops containing more computing power than the Nasa Apollo missions, with which to read your nonsense.

    They’re probably too busy swatting the flies away from their faces and dropping dead of starvation on the streets of Dunstable and Dundee anyway. Somebody phone Bob Geldof.

  9. And of course rationing will be the answer to the obesity crisis that we are all so familiar with as well.

    Obesity articles no doubt will re-appear the new year….

  10. “Where do people think the food banks get a chunk of their food from? The supermarkets.”
    Well, we all presume so, don’t we?
    But is there any truth in it? From what I understand of the way supermarket logistics work, there really isn’t very much food not sold. That’s what all the loyalty cards, surveys & very tight stock control are about. Being able to predict, as accurately as possible, what store demand will be & fill it with little surplus. Every item not rung through the checkout is a loss. Think how extensive those cooler displays are & how small the ‘nearing it’s sell-by date, reduced’ portion is.
    Packaged goods shouldn’t be a problem, because the shelf lives are out in the months+, so simple throughput would obviate.
    Possible they donate food as a PR exercise?.

  11. And why do you always know these articles are written by middle-class tossers who’ve never been short of money in their lives?
    “maybe give a tin of kidney beans as we pass through Tesco,”
    To do what with? Unless some other charitable soul’s donated half-pound minced beef what’s the average food bank user going to make of them. It’s hardly likely they’ll be au fait with the finer points of Central American cuisine, is it?

  12. I used to work for a charity getting food from the food bank – yes there’s a good chunk of supermarket food in there.
    There’s a limit to how long a supermarket will display fresh bread for, how long it will display veg for – thats the veg people complain is picked over and won’t buy. Still perfectly edible, just maybe have to cut a bit out or use it quickly. When it comes to free food does it matter?

  13. @ dc96 and JuliaM
    No, no – not the Social Workers however much you hate the caricature of “The social worker”.
    According to what i have heard, the majority of those using food banks do so because the DWP takes a fortnight or more to process and pay benefits. Bureaucracy and/or incompetence.

  14. Simply; foodbanks don’t exist. Are you all really that ignorant? They are an imagined bureaucracy created by the evil poor who are trying to take control of the free markets.

    for crying out loud, have you met a food market euroshat admitting to owning shares in something my mate does? What a self-serving fraudster! Starving? When I was young I ate your pestillent cousins, and look at me now!

    Communists are killing everyone, why can’t someone sensible and say that socialism rapes me?

  15. Who is Zoe Williams addressing? She begins:

    Presumably you’re already totally sickened by the excesses of Christmas as a gift-giving ceremony…

    Well no, not at all. There have been no excesses and everything has been very pleasant chez Bison.

    …and your goodwill to others has been leached out of you by the size of the queue outside Jo Malone…

    Who or what is Jo Malone? Any leaching of my goodwill is threatened rather by the assumptions that Zoe is making.

    … (10 minutes of your life, scorched, in the quest for a candle that smells).

    Scorched? Anyhow, I abominate candles that smell.

    I’ve now got two excellent phrases to spoil your Christmas dinner, and turn the marshmallow-topped sweet potato to ash in your mouth.

    Christmas dinner (or indeed any meal) featuring marshmallow-topped sweet potato is the clincher: I’ve strayed into the wrong demographic.

  16. Meissen Bison: begging the question and conscripting an army of straw men is the fons et origo of most Grauniad thumb-suckers. And marshmallow-topped vegetable dishes are vile Yank imports (more properly reserved for Thanksgiving) that no self-respecting Englishman would give house room to so Zoe is spouting even more ludicrous balderdash than usual.

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