This 20/20 Conservatives report: can I have a copy?

A group of modernising pro-green Tories will today launch a fight-back within the party when they publish a manifesto outlining plans for a £5bn-a-year boost in economic growth, creating 300,000 jobs, by pursuing environmentally friendly policies.


Anyone know
where I can get a copy?

Looked at their website and that doesn’t seem to have anything past September…..

14 comments on “This 20/20 Conservatives report: can I have a copy?

  1. Well, we are required to recycle (i.e. have a separate recycling bin for) food waste already. Enforced by the council being about to drop the main bin collection from once every fortnight to every three weeks. Food bin is collected weekly. General recycling is collected every two weeks (currently).

    Statist? Well, yes – it is to comply with a Brussels Directive. What exactly did you expect? A huge imposition? Nah.

  2. “Well, yes – it is to comply with a Brussels Directive”

    Can we do a quick poll here from Tim’s diversely located readership.
    I’ve operated in four European countries. Belgium, 1 location rural. France 4 locations, 2 rural 2 urban. Portugal 1 location sort of urban. Spain 6 locations 3 rural 2 urban 1 semi.
    In none of them has anything more than lip-service been given to recycling. Mostly a separate recycling stream available if you wish to use it, but no compulsion or pressure.
    What about the rest of Europe?

  3. Okay – the People’s Socialist Not-Quite-Yet-Republic of Scotland. No “compulsion” but significant and deliberate nudge.

  4. @SE
    I was always under the impression Jockland recycled almost all of its beer. Certainly tastes like it.

  5. Just save up all that rotting food and dump it on the estates of these Tory MPs. Job done.

    Why bother helping councils save £1bn? Taxpayers won’t see that money. The council will just waste it on other crap.

    Yet another reason to not vote Conservative at the next election. They are piling up in heaps, Mr Cameron.

  6. bloke in spain said: “Mostly a separate recycling stream available if you wish to use it, but no compulsion or pressure.”

    Did they reduce the frequency of regular rubbish collections as they do in the UK?

  7. probably find it in a local library, if there are any left – in the fantasy and myth section

  8. @bis:

    Germany (urban):
    The system is complicated but simple. In that it you want it simple, you are perfectly entitled to only bother with:

    The Main Bin.

    You can put almost anything in it including smelly food waste. Banned are most electrics and batteries (to be honest with smaller stuff I Plead the Fifth Amendment). Collected weekly, costs about €4 per collection.

    All other bins are optional and free of charge. We have:

    Packaging bin: Theoretically only for packaging with “Grüne Punkt” (which means disposal cost already paid) but they don’t care as long as it’s basically packaging in there. Collected fortnightly.

    Paper bin: any paperlike stuff. Collected fortnightly.

    “Organic” waste bin: garden clippings, rotten vegetables, teabags, remains of mice slaughtered by cat. Collected fortnightly.

    In addition a “Schadstoffmobil” comes and parks locally every few weeks so you can get rid of nasties – leftover antifreeze, paint, nuclear waste and so on.

    Italy (suburban):
    One big communal bin every 10 or so houses. Sling anything and everything in it. Collected at least every 2 days due to pong risk in summer.

    Concluding remarks

    I have never heard a council blame Europe for not collecting the bins. Here there is no compulsion or pressure to recycle, recycling optional, though a few things (batteries and electrics) are theoretically supposed to be disposed of through certain channels (to be fair very easy to access). The German location recycles over 70% of domestic waste despite lack of compulsion (that’s Germans for you).

  9. Redbridge council, weekly general waste and weekly recycling for bottles/cardboard/metal/printed material, and another for garden waste.

    No enforcement that I know of, so you recycle if you want to. Which we do as long as it doesnt require to go in minute details.

    There is also an amenity site for large stuff.

    I must that compared to the stories I hear about, our council has got that fairly right.

  10. Incidentally, all the recycling rules seem to go out the window if you live in a flat. House-dwellers get thirteen different-coloured bins, each with its own collection month. They are threatened with fines if their bins weigh too much or if they leave them out on the wrong day.

    Flat-dwellers dump their rubbish in big communal bins so it’s impossible to assign blame. There’s usually one black bin and one green bin, but I’ve never seen any more than that.

    I’ve seen this pattern in several places in London and the home counties.

  11. Here in rural Thailand people actually pay you money for stuff that can be recycled. Pennies, to be sure, but the cash is flowing in the right direction.

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