Polly abolishes democracy

The nasty nexus of interests revealed in the Miller case shows why public opinion is right: neither MPs nor the press are fit to regulate themselves.

If MPs aren’t competent to regulate themselves then where in fuck do they get the competence to regulate us from?

Quite: and ceding the power to regulate MPs to the bureaucracy means giving all power to said bureaucracy. Better that we be run by venal, incompetent bastards who we can unelect than by those we cannot unelect.

This was also amusing:

Britain’s press, dominated by tax-shy oligarchs abusing their power for their own ends, has set itself against all who seek to rein them in.

Has Polly been reading GMG’s accounts again?

30 comments on “Polly abolishes democracy

  1. The real glory of being a true hypocrite is you are completely free to condemn others’ hypocicy if you wish. Ergo Diane Abbott was always hyper critical of Cherie Blair’s schooling decisions for her kids.
    In between getting Tax Expert Richard Murphy to give GMG a clean bill of health, the Guardian’s editor asks why the editorial side of his newspaper should be accountable for the decisions of the business side. Meanwhile his Tuscan semi-resident columnist dismisses other newspapers’ right to free journalism by invoking her understanding of their proprietors’ tax positions.

  2. One problem is that an MP in a safe seat isn’t easlly fired because of the electoral system and the whole “if I vote UKIP, Labour/LDs might get in” problem of FPTP.

    But, if you introduce a recall system that forces by-elections, you might get a different result. People can see that the change of one seat won’t change the parliament they get but they can use their vote effectively. Plus, you can fire them quicker.

  3. @Ironman ‘The real glory of being a true hypocrite is you are completely free to condemn others’ hypocrisy if you wish.’

    This, as the kids say.

    A good friend of mine flies away on holiday twice a year, runs his own business, educates his children privately and lives in a big house in an exclusively white country village, and yet consistently rails against people who ruin the enviornment by flying away on holiday, capitalism, private provision of what he feels should be State services, and the sort of NIMBY conservatives who live in big houses in exclusively white country villages.

    I used to point out that he is a hypocrite, and he would just reply, ‘Yes, I am.’

    You just can’t win.

    Polly just wants a permanent State bureaucracy, which is pretty much what we have already anyway.

  4. Interested

    I understand you live not far from Cirencester, in which case that neighbour is probably Prince Charles.

    Yeah, he’s got a bloody cheek he has.

  5. Guardian, organ of arsewipe and for goodness sake with verbal diarrhoea – Polly – needs must.

  6. Ha ha – no, this isn’t a neighbour, just a long-standing friend who lives a long way away.

    But you’re right, Charles is nearby, and he has got a cheek. It’s almost like he wants a republic.

    I saw that Mike Tindall in Waitrose yesterday. He’s a good lad. Zara’s a nice bird, too.

  7. separation of powers. we may delegate relegation of ourselves to a group incapable of regulating themselves because we also delegate regulation of the regulators to the judiciary, or whatever. This hardly constitutes a negation of democracy.

  8. Tindall is indeed. Used to drink in the Old Green Tree when playing for Bath….always a sign of good sense.

    You might know a bloke called John Gotley around that area too…..used to work with him.

  9. Zara’s a nice bird, too.

    So’s her mum in private. I’ve met her a few times and she is an easy conversationalist who is partial to the odd swear. Also, when I met her in Blandord Camp in the early 80s her private detective reckoned she held the land speed record between the edge of Salisbury and the back gate to the camp.

  10. Polly takes extreme umbrage if you say she has a villa in Tuscany. It is, of course, in neighbouring Umbria. Only the mere middle-class plebs go to Tuscany these days.

  11. “Don’t they realise that hardly anyone does as they’re told unless they’re forced to?”

    That’s the problem with the working classes these days – they just don’t do what they are told by their betters. Fortunately there are several hundred upper middle class wankers at the Guardian ready and willing to tell them what to do, in every aspect of their lives.

  12. As we have an apparent ‘obesity crisis’ and an obvious and massive food surplus, it is abundantly clear that “food waste” is a completely trivial issue, so anyone advocating State control of what people eat is a bona fide totalitarian.

    Meanwhile, The Guardian describes itself as a Liberal newspaper.

  13. @sam
    “have fun”

    “How absolutely fascinating. Is she forgetting why there was rationing?
    So she’d like strong leadership by someone who’s a vegetarian, strongly disapproves of smoking & an enthusiastic supporter of family values. Der Volk, as he put it.
    Ring any bells?
    National Socialism is alive & well in the pages of the Guardian.”

    Let’s see how long that survives the CiF moderating policy.

  14. Like her one-time hero, Gordon is a Moron, she doesn’t do much of her own writing nowadays.

    And, like Gord, she’s being subject to the snide piss-take of her aides.

    This is the Polly equivalent of Gord wandering round Washington with his trouser leg stuck in his sock.

  15. Umbragia is the destination of choice for Guardianistas, where they can sit in their villas and seethe at the sight of working class people refusing to gnaw on old bones but instead THROWING THEM AWAY like there is not overwhelming crisis in the supply of food.

  16. This Hanson bird – what’s stopping her from bringing back rationing in her own house?

    If she wants to live on cabbage and nettles, supplemented with one powdered egg, half an ounce of bacon and a sugar cube each week, who am I to stop her?

    Tim, no, I don’t know the chap of whom you speak.

  17. Interested – I think the attraction is more in the line of “the boot stamping on the human face” bit.

    Seeing the people you despise having to queue for hours in the cold and rain for a few scraps of food. Yes, I believe that is the attraction of it.

  18. Meanwhile, The Guardian describes itself as a Liberal newspaper.

    it’s one of those inversions like People’s Democratic Republic to describe a totalitarian state.

  19. “Umbragia is the destination of choice for Guardianistas”

    Thanks, Rob. I always assumed that La Toynbee would not be seen dead in my end of Tuscany, but it is a relief to be certain. If the rest of the crew also migrate to that foreign country, Umbria, I can sleep better. The Umbrians can look after themselves.

  20. Polly believing “public opinion is right” – that’s unusual, and slippery. She’ll get back to her normal stance when she discovers public opinion on tax, immigration, crime, etc etc.

  21. I make no doubt whatever that Polly would just love to abolish democracy.

    Why is anyone surprised?

  22. @Sam: what did I fucking say, just yesterday? And I was being sarcastic no less. I didn’t ‘actually’ believe (then) that Guardian readers longed for the reintroduction of rationing. I give up. How can you satirise people like this?

  23. In the good old days, MPs could always be regulated by the House of Lords. You know, the right sort of people we could not vote out of office.

    But of course Blair had to replace them with time served Yes men

  24. That’s the problem with the working classes these days – they just don’t do what they are told by their betters.

    “Betters” needs to be in sneer quotes. I like to refer to them as our worses to make a point.

  25. To quote the late Auberon Waugh, following an article about the Knebworth Pop festival (back in 1996 I think, where the Guardian had rejoiced over the fact that the Sun had run a litany of complaints about the event, and recommended their readers attend the following year in the absence of any Sun readers):

    ‘What I find irksome is the arrogant idea that Guardian Readers are any less objectionable than those of the Sun. I search in vain for some blessed corner of the globe where I might be troubled by neither faction’

  26. “neither MPs nor the press are fit to regulate themselves.”

    The argument is that the press do not need to undergo additional regulation, the law is there for that, as can be seen in the Old Bailey today.

    MPs on the other hand can get caught with their hand in the till, which for most of us would be a sack-able offence and probably a criminal record. If you support democracy and the right of the plebs to elect philanderers and thieves to represent them, the worst that can possibly happen is to force them to undergo another election or incite a recall.

    The only similarity between the press and MPs is that they are stocked with pompous overpaid egotistical hypocrites who like nothing more than telling people what’s right and what to do, and neither can take criticism too well.

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