Don’t be such sodding twats

Rugby World Cup 2015 organisers are mulling over the idea of segregating fans at the tournament next year. No more mix’n’mingle, no more rubbing shoulders with the opposition, no more jibes and taunts and banter.

Jeebus, it’s one of the joys of the damn game that you all see it on equal terms, with the supporters of the game itself, not just the supporters of your tribe.

14 comments on “Don’t be such sodding twats

  1. SE,

    If they remove all the vowels from their speech they could pretend to be All Black supporters as many kiwis claim scottish ancestry.

  2. It won’t happen, but as you say Tim it would be horrible if it did.

    That said, I noticed (on telly) some Saracens fans taunting Clermont fans the other day – turning round soccer-style and jeering at them instead of applauding a try. Most unattractive.

    They were behaving almost like Australians.

    (I was unfortunately at the Lions game in Sydney in 2001, at the final whistle of which the bogan in front of me and my chum turned round and invited us most aggressively to leave his country on the next available flight. I was fortunate enough to be in the same stadium two years later when Mr Wilkinson dropped that goal, Sadly sans bogan. Mind you, an Englishman in the seats in front on me went to the loo at full time and came back with a busted nose, having, he said, been jumped by a group of Aussie fans. He was a respectable-looking chap in his early 50s. So maybe segging the Aussies is a good idea.)

  3. What ? The best part of the 2007 World Cup was ripping the piss out of the Aussies in Marseilles.

    Also, I’ve long believed segregation due to violence is cause and effect reversed. Let the football fans mix and they might just start behaving like humans rather than a tribe. Force the rugby fans apart and you may see the opposite effect.

    interested – must have been a tiny minority. Fans were mixing well all round the stadium on Saturday. Lovely family atmosphere – never seen so many kids at Twickenham.

  4. I was there too, Interested. I was almost perfectly in line with Jason Robinson’s try. It was a magnificent occasion and made all the more sweeter for beating the Aussies in their own backyard. You can always rely on the Aussies to be sore losers, but they are also graceless in victory. It is never enough just to win, they must have won in adversity, bad weather, corrupt refs/umpires, injuries, etc, etc.

    Part of the problem with Australia is that rugby union is just not that big so when the national team is going well, you will get bogan league and AFL fans making up the numbers.

  5. @Corvus Umbranox

    ‘What ? The best part of the 2007 World Cup was ripping the piss out of the Aussies in Marseilles.’

    No, the best bit was the scrums!

    ‘interested – must have been a tiny minority.’

    Yep, doubtless. I saw one bloke on telly, that’s all. To be absolutely fair, he could well have known the folks he was taunting, or have struck up a bit of banter – it just didn’t look like that. I don’t think it’s a serious problem, it just jarred a bit that’s all.

    I love mixing with opposition fans at club or national games.

    In the post-2003 euphoria, I remember being at Twickenham for a Six Nations game the next season and the place was littered with horrible soccer scum with patriotic tattoos etc.

    Luckily we soon became crap, so they went back to their tedious girls’ game!

  6. @DocBud unfortunately for me I was behind the posts at the other end.

    Both tries and the DG happened at the other end, all we got was Flatley potting the pens that Watson kept giving them to keep them in the game.

    We almost saw Benny Kay score though!

    I don’t remember much beyond half time anyway, I was smashed on Bundy rum, (sadly).

    Your analysis of Australians is very accurate. They have a bigger chip on their shoulders than the Scots and Welsh, which is saying something.

  7. Both tries and the DG happened at the other end, all we got was Flatley potting the pens that Watson kept giving them to keep them in the game.

    That kick from the touchline by Flatley in the last minute to end the game into extra time was an incredible kick; shame it got forgotten following the drop goal, in some ways.

  8. The joy of the game is not being forced to play it anymore. I picked up a back injury in a collapsed scrum (prop) aged 11. I’m now 62. That’s 51 years of continuous back pain. Fuck Rugby.

  9. @BiJ I sympathise, though that wouldn’t happen now (different scrum rules and I doubt they scrummage competitively at that age, probably wisely).

    But Matt Hampson was paralysed in a collapse – he still loves the game. I injured myself quite badly skiing, but there is nothing I would rather be doing than skiing.

  10. RWC have scotched the story – https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/461093522834468864 . Even in the story it wasn’t mooted for security reason, but for some misguided idea that solid blocks of supporters would provide better backdrops for TV. Which was also clearly bollocks. One of the best things about having been at Sydney for the 3rd Lions Test was being sat at the end of the group of my family I was there with (brother +his girlfriend, cousin + her betrothed) next to a Welsh expat lass (possibly even more excited about being there than I was) beyond whom was her Aussie boyfriend. As the Lions tries started pouring in we all jumped up in celebration, with one obvious exception. The couple on their feet started hugging each other and the Welsh lass started hugging me. A sweet, sweet day…

  11. We saw a classic example this weekend of how Australians approach sport and sportspeople.

    Before a month or so ago, most people had not heard of heavyweight boxer, Alex Leapai. Then, all of a sudden we are being told that he will become Australia’s first ever world heavyweight champion when he topples man mountain Wladimir Klitschko. His coach told us that Leapai was the favourite. On Friday and Saturday there was a big build up on news and current affairs programmes.

    Nobody mentioned that he was Samoan born, just as they never mention the origin of any other foreign born Australian sportspeople such as pole vaulters called Tatiana or RWC 2003 try scorer Lote Tuqiri. However, Australian commentators are unable to say Kevin Pietersen or Jonathan Trott without adding “South African born”.

    The next morning we woke to find that Leapai had spent most of the five rounds that the fight lasted on his backside. There was much talk of how brave he’d been and how great it was that he’d set his family up for life.

    By today he is history.

  12. The next morning we woke to find that Leapai had spent most of the five rounds that the fight lasted on his backside. There was much talk of how brave he’d been and how great it was that he’d set his family up for life.

    I’m surprised there was any talk at all. Back in the summer Ashes last year when Australia was getting beaten, they turned off the coverage for sections of the game.

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