This is something of a problem

OK, so QCs aren’t willing to take on complex fraud cases at legal aid rates. Which means that it’s very difficult indeed to prosecute complex frauds because there’s no defence lawyers of the necessary seniority available. But this is a problem of the government’s own making to some extent:

Nearly all defendants in serious fraud cases need legal aid, because the state freezes their assets, leaving them without the means to meet legal bills.

If you’re going to insist that people must rely upon legal aid then, well, you’ve got to provide the legal aid that they can rely upon.

8 comments on “This is something of a problem

  1. Nearly all defendants in serious fraud cases need legal aid, because the state freezes their assets, leaving them without the means to meet legal bills.

    And they still can’t get convictions? This may rule me out of jury duty, but I swear at the slightest hint that anyone has had their assets frozen in a fraud trial, I am going to vote to acquit.[1] Even if it is another vast Ponzi scheme.

    [1] Unless their surname is Guinness of course.

  2. It is the same bullshit as the US RICO act–supposedly for use against “gangsters” (political scum all have a thing about gangsters–like the left and “fascism”, gangland holds up a mirror to the political filth in which they see their own evil faces and it is not to their liking)–now used anywhere it suits them to ensure defendants have only useless public defenders.

    Indeed the British establishment picks up tips from all manner of political scum. They want EU corpus juris–“guilty unless you can prove otherwise/forbidden unless we allow it ” laws, they want rid of the jury asap. Also from the EU they have learned the trick of putting little “enabling clauses” into acts which empower them to expand the scope of said law vastly without any more reference to Parliament. From the Federal tyranny they have got the idea of increasingly vague laws–so you don’t know where they start and end and minor matters can be expanded into serious crimes. That and a new outbreak of “plea bargaining” –although that can’t happily co-exist with mob rule “jack up their sentence” laws.

    And, of course, they are trying to gut legal aid anyway–so all you will get is a law dog from whichever firm of cheapjacks put in the lowest bid–who will advise you to plead guilty and plea bargain to save themselves and their state masters the cost of trial.
    It seems to me that they are getting ready for economic collapse by trying to ensure one way trials for the same reason American federal scum are sending armed cars to the police depts. of every one-horse town in the US–a desperate attempt to try and keep the lid on in a world were tens of millions want to see the colour of the political scum’s insides.

  3. It’s only an ethical problem. The State’s idea of what the problem is with fraud cases is it is just inconveniently difficult getting convictions, and it would everyone just plead guilty, regardless of the facts or law and keep justice out of it.

  4. Yeah, but it all evens out since all the top CPS lawyers are prosecuting serious criminals like Dave Lee Travis, Jim Davidson and Rolf Harris so petty crimes like fraud and murder are being left to the new boys and girls.

  5. @Mr Ecks “That and a new outbreak of “plea bargaining” –although that can’t happily co-exist with mob rule “jack up their sentence” laws.”

    They have plea bargaining and 700 year sentences in the US.

    @Kevin B “petty crimes like fraud and murder are being left to the new boys and girls”

    Not really.

    On the subject of fraud, the reason it’s in the firing line particularly is the scale of the prep. A big murder might take a few weeks of prep and a fortnight in court. A big fraud? A silk friend of mine was instructed in one just before the VHCC stuff blew up. They didn’t count the papers, they weighed them: 17 tonnes.

  6. Interested–yes they do have long sentences and plea bargains. The plea bargains come about because cosmic time length sentences are promised if you dare to plead not guilty and lose.
    What they don’t have is this mob rule act–where you (foolishly–as in the case of poor dim badly-advised Stuart Hall) plea bargain and then get your sentence extended in such a manner that those you have supposedly struck a satanic bargain with just get to shrug their shoulders and say–“We didn’t do it”.

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