Yes, today is the day you should go and vote

And just to remind you why:

But in Brussels, even mid-ranking administrators can take home more cash than the Prime Minister. The leaked papers show that EU officials in the “AD 11” grade, a middle management group, have gross earnings of £112,090, including expatriation and household allowances. But because they pay just 13.4 per cent in tax, they take home £83,357 in net pay.

Those with children will earn substantially more with allowances totalling £7,000 per child each year, meaning many officials with families on lower grades will also earn more than Mr Cameron.

More than 80 per cent of EU officials get a 16 per cent of salary top-up as a perk to compensate them for living in Brussels or Luxembourg for their entire working lives, as well as for household allowances. For an AD11 middle manager, the two allowances are worth more than £1,300 a month.

Officials employed before staff reforms in 2004 are also eligible for additional benefits, taking the number of EU civil servants better paid than Mr Cameron to more than 10,000.

Hang them all.

25 comments on “Yes, today is the day you should go and vote

  1. “The EU has repeatedly refused to publish information of the net income of its 47,000 staff, making it impossible for taxpayers to know the true pay levels of European civil servants.”

  2. I had been wavering because the UKIP focus on immigration has really been quite nasty. But I thought Farage came across well on Today yesterday and the rest of the bunch really do need a kick up the arse.

    I shall hold my nose, again, and vote.

  3. Went to the polling station this morning.

    Apart from UKIP, the other parties looking to get us out of the EU are:

    * We Demand a Referendum Party – I don’t want a referendum, and I prefer my trannies to be small and pretty like the ones in Thailand. Sorry Nikki, but you wanted to be a woman, so I’m going to judge you on your appearance like I do other girlies.

    * An Indepencence from Europe Party – Guy called Mike Nattrass. Dunno who he is. But his surname is stupid, so Nattgonnavoteforhim.

    * No2EU – Communists.

    * English Democrats – mainly want to duplicate the Scottish devolution mistake in England. Sorry guys, we have too many politicians as it is.

    * Harmony Party – no, I don’t have a clue either. Though I do like their website http://www.harmonypartyuk.com

    * British National Party – Old Labour with added racism.

  4. * An Indepencence from Europe Party – Guy called Mike Nattrass. Dunno who he is. But his surname is stupid, so Nattgonnavoteforhim.

    Well until yesterday he was the UKIP MEP for the region…..

  5. Thanks Tim

    And a fine job he must’ve been doing, I’m sure 🙂

    I didn’t know who Nikki Sinclaire was either till they put up some posters with her rather forbidding looking face, grimacing like a female Kurgan from Highlander. I never vote for ladies who look like they could beat me up.

  6. “Reg Mahrra (Harmony Party) is the salt of the Earth”.

    I like that. But I voted Kipper anyway.

  7. Ian – yes, if only they’d told us sooner!

    An astute thinker, he has been involved in politics many, many years

    Ok.

    and is well known in communities across the Midlands and in the South.

    So is Jimmy Savile.

    His industrial background means he understands the value of manufacturing to our Country.

    He used to work in a factory then?

    Reg cares deeply about people and their lives.

    I’m so bloody sick of politicians who care deeply about people and their lives. How about campaigning on fear and disdain for a change?

    Vote Steve For Madness And Terror.

  8. Vote how you like today…But vote Ukip in the 2015 GE and you’ll get Milipedo with his dad’s Marxist baggage….In the final reckoning, the Tories are far better than Labour. Just hold your nose…And an in/out referendum (which we could win!) is on offer from the Tories…

  9. And an in/out referendum (which we could win!) is on offer from the Tories…

    But, to repeat, Dave would have no intention of losing any such referendum – in case one meeds reminding, Dave is determined that the UK should stay firmly within the EU – and he would be the one calling and managing said referendum..

    On the other hand, if a prospective Conservative candidate thought Dave was a loser, then I would hope UKIP might divert their energies to supporting such candidates. Indeed Farage (using different words) hinted at that today.

    In any case, 2015 is a long way off right now.

  10. @ PF
    So Dave, with a bit of help from Angela, will sweat blood to squeeze terms from the rest that 50.01% will buy if backed by a big enough marketing campaign! That’s got to be miles better than Millionaireband, who gets a nanny-cum-maid to do the shopping, making us slaves to both the UK public sector unions and the Brussels bureaucrats.

  11. A friend phoned me up today, having just voted at a polling station in Harborne, Birmingham. Harborne is a well-heeled, middle class mostly white area. My friend said one of the polling clerks was wearing a niqab, showing only her eyes. My friend was angered at not being able to see the face of her interlocutor, and it swung her vote. Is it really permitted? It seems extraordinary to me.

  12. Theophrastus

    The problem is I can’t look at myself in the mirror having voted Tory any more.

    I want Miliband in, I want him to fuck everything and then I want him to own it.

    Being able to say I told you so is now more important to me than having a pink Conservative government.

  13. Interested-

    Indeed.

    Theophrastus-

    Cameron had his chance to start turning the oil tanker of the State onto a new heading. He blew it. Myself, I said here and elsewhere FWIW before the last election that it would be better for another term of Brown wallowing in the mire, to finish Labour off. But no, the “anything but the Labours” vote went out and voted in a Progressivist Tory party, nothing changed, things got worse, and here we are.

    You will not get any change by voting Tory. They are simply too far gone.

  14. @ PF
    You have got to be joking – or insane. An improvement to tolerable levels is, in your view, worse than Millionaireband increasing union control in the UK and increasing bureaucratic (not much different but more paper) control in the EU (Brussels).
    Or a you a Scargillite – devoted to making things so much worse for the lumpenproletariate that they rise up in violent rebellion? If so, you’ve got your sums wrong. The lower classes in the UK are unable and upper classes are totally unwilling to militarily defeat the EU. Hitler could not defeat us but without support from the USA and the USSR we could not have defeated Hitler on “our own” which included support from the Free French, the Polish Air Force and the resistance movements elsewhere in Europe (Serbian and Romanian royalists, Bonhoeffer etc). Making things worse to make them better is the cry of those would be dictators after the revolution which always leaves everyone else at the bottom.

  15. john77, i happen to agree with PF.

    If Red Ed wins in 2015, so be it. But the idea that the sneaky cast-iron Dave can pull another one and think that he can get away with it is just too much for me to bear.

    Ed cannot be worse than Blair and we should be able to take 5 years of him before we elect a true conservative lot. Do check what happened in Canada.

  16. @ John77

    I can assure you that I am not insane (and I must confess, talking of joking, I nearly accused you of the same, above!). You understand perfectly the frog slowly boiled, hence perhaps I am simply confused by what you are saying..??

    Indeed – Scargillite, militarily defeating the EU, Hitler, Godwin, the lower / upper classes, the USA, Poles and..!? OK, you win; and apols if I am being very slow here but – what about the ballot box..:) ..and following which Article 50 would be my personal preferred WMD of choice.

    Although tempting, there have been a number of threads on here recently that have substantially covered the whys and wherefores with all of this, and often perhaps just a tad over heated at times, so I am tempted to steer clear of this just for now, or at least until after this one’s properly declared and judged..

    Would be interesting to see an (slightly illicit but not quite enough for an EAW) early exit poll..?!

  17. PF
    Of course, Cameron has no intention of losing a 2017 referendum – that’s a statement of the obvious – but he won’t be able to rig it either. 2017 would be unlikely to be a re-run of 1975. The electorate is much more euro-sceptical and less deferential now, and the out campaign would have numerous wealthy backers and also be able to field some big beasts, like Nigel Lawson, Frank Field, David Davis et al as well as Nigel Farage…. The case for leaving the EU is now so strong that the In campaign would be reduced to running scare stories about the loss of jobs.

    Interested:

    “I want Miliband in, I want him to fuck everything and then I want him to own it. Being able to say I told you so is now more important to me than having a pink Conservative government.”

    That sounds nihilistic to me, and bizarrely irrational. Milipedo would do immense damage; and it is by no means clear what the outcome would be.

    Ian B:

    “I said here and elsewhere FWIW before the last election that it would be better for another term of Brown wallowing in the mire, to finish Labour off. But no, the “anything but the Labours” vote went out and voted in a Progressivist Tory party, nothing changed, things got worse, and here we are.”

    Had Brown been re-elected, he might well have turned things around enough to win another term….You don’t know. A week is a long time in politics, and five years is an aeon.

    “nothing changed”
    Really? The coalition has achieved nothing?

    “Things have got worse”
    Worse than under Blair/Brown?

    Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius!

  18. This is getting very repetitive..

    Of course, Cameron has no intention of losing a 2017 referendum – that’s a statement of the obvious

    and hence – given he is not stupid – he won’t (lose).

    but he won’t be able to rig it either

    What? It’s very simple, he will only put forward a question he knows he can win. Cameron really does want to stay in – do you understand that? John77 above gets it perfectly (his 50.01% comment) – and that’s fine, we hence just disagree on what outcome we might choose.

    “Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius”

    No comment…

  19. “Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius”

    Something something something you’d be mad to buy a Toyota hybrid?

    😉

  20. Yes. PW, that, too! 😉

    PF:

    But how do you know he won’t lose? He’s made misjudgements before, like all politicians. And:

    “It’s very simple, he will only put forward a question he knows he can win.”

    But if the question is biased, there will be an outcry, open revolt in the Tory Party and censure from the Electoral Commission. So it’s NOT “very simple”, as you put it.

  21. @ Theophrastus

    OK, I get it.

    So you want me to tell you that, yes David Cameron is the right person to vote for in 2015, because – and wait for it – I can probably count on him being so utterly frigging useless that he will probably misjudge and screw up that referendum that he “might” hold in 2017…

    Go on, admit it, you’re just bored silly and having a good old laugh, aren’t you..:)

  22. PF:
    I’m afraid you evidently don’t get it. Cameron has commiitted himself and his party to hold a referendum in 2017, if re-elected. You implausibly claim to have privileged knowledge of the political future and so to “know” that Cameron will ensure he does not lose the referendum. Not even Nigel Farage believes that…

    My position is to vote tactically. Vote UKIP where UKIP can win, vote UKIP where doing so will do maximum damage to to the Limp Dumps and Milimarx, but otherwise vote Tory – particularly when the Tory is eurosceptic. Any other approach risks letting Milimarx into power…and is self-defeating for eurosceptics of the right.

  23. I’m afraid you evidently don’t get it.

    FFS.. trust me I do get it..

    The obvious point I was making at 8.32pm was not that “Cameron will ensure he does not lose” but “ok, I’ll play along, let’s pretend I believe he WILL in fact both call and lose a referendum that he is totally committed to winning (and would pretty much do anything he could to win) – and now you actually want me to place my confidence in and vote for someone as inept as that..”

    it was humour (of sorts), but don’t worry.

    particularly when the tory is eurosceptic

    I do get (and even ‘partially’ agree with!) the other point wrt strategy versus tactics, and maybe you didn’t understand what I wrote above, back at 22/5 6.35pm.

    But actually I don’t really care. Let’s just assume that you are right and that I am completely wrong (or that I am totally irrational or bonkers – ie even more mad than either Interested or Ian B above) on this; ie that I’m the sort of person who likes to wake up in the morning without the worry that I may have pissed off all the hamsters and goldfish, or in some way have let down every future generation of gerbils..

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