16 comments on “OK then Michel

  1. As is typical with French Prime Ministers, hardly anyone has heard of him.

    Who would subsidise your farmers if we left?

  2. The question is this: Has Cameron got the balls to pull out of the union? That is the only question.

    Until then we are members of a club that loathes us.

  3. Presumably it supposed to be a slight when he says you only joined to help your businesses.

  4. >The question is this: Has Cameron got the balls to pull out of the union? That is the only question.

    You haven’t been paying attention. Cameron does not want to leave the EU. Sure, he makes occasional noises about the EU needing to be reformed, but he wants us to stay in. Rocard is basically right that Cameron is only play-acting.

    BTW this whole Junker thing is just another .

  5. Hallowed Be, yes, but you’re also hearing the sound a feline being released from an item of luggage. After all, what else was the purpose of the, cough, “common market”?

  6. Well, I suppose so. I mean, with the euro crisis, the North-West / Mediterranean split on economic fundamentals, the rise of extremist parties, Russian imperial revivalism and the utter complacency of the Brussels apparatchicks, the thing that is going to “kill Europe” is a lack of British “elegance”.

    Hmm, student activist – a froggy SWPper, Sciences-Po, ENA, never had a real job in his life. Typical euro-crat.

  7. Rocard is a socialist, and the perfect example of why growing old can be not pretty.

    A cnut.

  8. ‘Get out of Europe before you kill it’

    Rocard may be right. The power of the EUs constituent countries is related to their economic power. The larger the budget they can provide or deny is important. That economic power is closely related to population. According to Eurostat by 2035 Germany’s population will have declined to 76.5M and the UKs will have risen to 71.8M (and France ~71.3M). This makes it likely that the UK will have similar economic clout to Germany in the future. Germany may be doing well economically now, but there’s little reason to think that it won’t regress to the mean in the future. There isn’t notably less intervention in Germany and paying for the pensions of the old with a declining population will take it’s toll. Also, there is so much intervention in France it’s hard to see the French doing well despite their growing population.

    So, in about 15-20 years time things could be very different than they are today. The interesting question is what public opinion will be like then and how much more control the EU will have gained by that time.

  9. @Current

    Request from the other side if the pond: try to give us a heads up if you guys are all going to get together on the mainland and start killing each other again… Quickest way to solve demographic problems.

  10. “If we do really have the power I say we kill it.”

    Mercy killing is no crime.

  11. Current – “That economic power is closely related to population. According to Eurostat by 2035 Germany’s population will have declined to 76.5M and the UKs will have risen to 71.8M (and France ~71.3M). This makes it likely that the UK will have similar economic clout to Germany in the future.”

    Economic power is obviously weakly associated with population. Or Bangladesh would be even more important than Germany.

    What you mean is that in 2035 Britain will be majority Somali. Germany will have a sizable Turkish community but will still be largely German. Thus they will be a fairly large economy and we will produce nothing but suicide bombers.

  12. What you mean is that in 2035 Britain will be majority Somali.

    You’ve said some weird shit on here but that’s close to taking the biscuit.

    We’d have to import approximately triple the population of Somalia. In 21 years.

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