Seems fairly obvious really

Children conceived through fertility treatment like IVF are one third more likely to have psychiatric problems such as autism or schizophrenia than those born naturally, research suggests.

Although the increased risk was described as “modest” researchers found it persisted throughout childhood into adulthood.

However researchers believe that it is not fertility procedures that are to blame but rather mothers who struggle to get pregnant are passing down faulty genes to their offspring.

Dr Allan Jensen of the University of Copenhagan said fertility doctors needed to be aware of “the small, but potentially increased risk of psychiatric disorders among the children born to women with fertility problems.”

However, this knowledge, he added, “should always be balanced against the physical and psychological benefits of a pregnancy.”

For some, at least, of the women who struggle to become pregnant the problem will be that the genes they’re trying to become pregnant with aren’t very good. So, if extra care is taken to make sure that they do become pregnant then one might expect more faulty genes along the way.

“It is known, for example, that psychiatric disorders to some degree have a genetic component.

“It is perhaps thus likely that that these damaged genes coding for psychiatric diseases are overrepresented in women with fertility problems, and, if transferred to their offspring, this may at least partly explain the increased risk of psychiatric diseases.”

11 comments on “Seems fairly obvious really

  1. So with the NHS helping headcases to transmit their genes, social welfare encouraging breeding by the most welfare dependent and Labour’s imported voters marrying their cousins, the big state assisted by the taxpayer is improving the gene pool how?

  2. Its not obvious at all. Genes relating to conception might be faulty and might indeed be passed on but why should those relating to cognitive function be relevant?

  3. As the late Richard Feynman once said: ” You can fool people but you can’t fool Nature.”

  4. Genes relating to conception might be faulty and might indeed be passed on but why should those relating to cognitive function be relevant?

    Because the overall viability of the foetus may be affected. Genes interact in complex and largely under-explored manners.

    Also, I’d note that without reviewing the papers and the underlying evidence, children born to parents who are desperate to have them and may have sacrificed considerably to afford umpteen tries at IVF, may grow up in an emotionally more oppressive environment.

  5. Isn’t there evidence of a higher incidence of genetic problems of all descriptions with the off spring of older mothers? And IVF mothers will, definition, be older because there will be the time trying for a child sans IVF to add to the age of any pregnancy.

    Dr Jensen’s a brave man, though. The equality of opportunity/equality of outcome mob will be stacking the faggots for his bonfire irrespective of evidence.

  6. SE,

    I don’t think that holds. As Eddy says, the reproductive system flushes gross chemical errors, not subtle behavioral ones. The system is not psychic, (Oh! he might be a bit weird! best not risk it.). It’s more like, does it work? (pump running, temps and pressures good etc.) then we’re good to go.

  7. Finding that one of the 5000 things you are watching this particular population (IVF kids) extremely closely for is “one third more likely” is stochastic bullshit.

  8. B(N)IS
    That’s a good point, is the comparison between IVF children and all other children or between IVF children and those of older mothers. Well spotted.

  9. God, in his infinite wisdom, decided to load the unlucky with all sorts of genetic problems. These will manifest themselves in many ways. The rest of us should probably (i) So arrange things that the problems are not multiplied, while (ii) Stumping up to succour the poor sods who draw the short straws.

    Point (i) would easily be affordable as long as various extravagances by our welfare state were eliminated by adroit deployment of machine guns.

  10. However, this knowledge, he added, “should always be balanced against the physical and psychological benefits of a pregnancy.”

    The physical and psychological benefits to whom precisely?

    The same benefits the same doctors will represent as a danger to mothers’ physical and psychological well being and hence a reason for an abortion?

    I notice that the doctors are blaming the Mothers and not themselves. Or maybe the Fathers. I mean, who donates? Who needs the cash that bad? This is to be expected from the doctors. But it is probably just as likely the procedure is to blame. IVF makes conception easier so it is plausible that lower quality sperm will result in pregnancies that would have failed to continue in nature.

    But hey, as long as the Mother’s psychological well being is all that matters ….

  11. More realistically- they’re just too old, having been trapped in the ‘career track’ until their eggs go off.

    Simple solution, return of patriarchy, end universal suffrage- and universal manhood suffrage, impose eugenic policies, allow a sustainable future. Easy.

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