And another Rotheram reverse ferret

Never has universal agreement looked more adversarial. If there is a single soul in Britain willing to suggest that the sexual abuse of 1,400 girls in Rotherham is not a societal failure of great seriousness, then they are keeping pretty quiet about it. Unfortunately, the people who are talking the loudest seem mainly to be interested in drawing attention to their own long-standing rectitude and by extension the long-standing lack of rectitude of their real or imagined ideological enemies.

It’s an article of faith among British institutions that “impartiality” or “fairness” or “justice” is arrived at via the presentation of opposing views. It’s the basis of our governmental and judicial systems. It’s the guiding principle of our foremost media institution, the BBC. The idea generally seems to be that there are two sides to every story, one wrong and one right. But there are usually as many “sides” to any story as there are people telling it. This is certainly true in the case of Rotherham.

I think Peter Simple is now filling in for Debbie Orr. That’s how it reads anyway.

But then Peter Simple always was at the very edge of Poe’s Law.

All of which suggests something sensible that the next (Long May Rusbridger Live!) editor of The Guardian might usefully do upon appointment. Insist that all of his writers, both current and would be, read the collected works of Peter Simple. And if any column or idea, logical train or even simile, could usefully have been inserted into such collected works then they’re not to use it.

Might make the paper considerably better: even if shorter.

16 comments on “And another Rotheram reverse ferret

  1. The guiding principle of the BBC is “the presentation of opposing views”?

    YOU FUCKING WHAT?!!! Does he seriously believe this?!

  2. It’s an article of faith among British institutions that “impartiality” or “fairness” or “justice” is arrived at via the presentation of opposing views. It’s the basis of our governmental and judicial systems. It’s the guiding principle of our foremost media institution, the BBC.

    Oh yes. So first we put on the Israeli foreign minister and subject him to straw men, second guessing, begging the question, sneering, and rude interruptions. Then it’s over to a Yemeni terrorist with a hook for a hand who rants away as we nod sympathetically at every point.

  3. “if there is a single soul in Britain willing to suggest that the sexual abuse of 1,400 girls in Rotherham is not a societal failure of great seriousness, then they are keeping pretty quiet about it.”

    There are a fewer tossers on the McShane thread who think that it is understandable for the filth to weigh up the rape of 1400 girls against their career prospects.

  4. “Societal failure” “Misogyny” “Bad things happen in pockets of deprivation”

    Yeah great; so Britain is just full of these gangs and teenage girls everywhere are in danger are they? Because in Britain we’ve got such misogyny that our levels of rape are way above anywhere else are they? Because every town with low mean income levels has suffered this has it?

    Or could it be that in one town a growing group from one ethnic community learned that it could target the girls from another ethnic group and it would get away with it. Because the police knew the shit it would get if it thought about stopping it. So it eventually moves on to aiding and abetting it. Because in the one – party state that is Rotherham councillors knew where their careers would go if they said anything. Because the criminal shit of an MP liked harvesting their votes

    So the girls, the victims could go and Fucking rot
    And as the Guardian is showing us this week with such pride, they still can. Debbie sings a feminist tune, but real women, needing real support, have never been the concern of feminist Guardian writers.

    Scum, all off them.

    P.S. This is why I stay a Conservative, for all it’s faults: because British Socialism is cancer and I vote to fight it.

  5. Fortunately the Feministas haven’t let a small crisis like this deflect them from their most important goal – banning Page 3.

  6. “P.S. This is why I stay a Conservative, for all it’s faults: because British Socialism is cancer and I vote to fight it.”

    Sorry Ironman but voting for BluLabour is not fighting socialism. I have just learned this morning for example that the pile of ZaNuLab shite about kids being forced to attend school until they are 18 is coming into force. In my delusion I thought it had been cancelled. Camoron must have done it at the same time they brought in anonymity for men accused of sex crimes and the Great Reapel of New Labour’s tyranny Bill. Silly me. Trust BluLab to fight socialism root and branch eh!

  7. From Ironman’s comment:
    “Or could it be that in one town a growing group from one ethnic community learned that it could target the girls from another ethnic group and it would get away with it.”

    Does anyone seriously believe this is unique to Rotherham?
    Given that the “heritage community” is firmly ensconced in numerous other cities & the PCness of councils, social workers, police, is little different anywhere else.
    I’d suspect a great deal of panic & cover-ups are going on currently.

  8. “There are a fewer tossers on the McShane thread who think that it is understandable for the filth to weigh up the rape of 1400 girls against their career prospects.”

    Doc Bud
    Did you realise that the link supplied to theMcShane apology was a parody? UKL nearly let the cat out of the bag and all I did was write another parody, a parody of a parody if you like.

    I know you’re a bit slow on this sarcasm and irony stuff so for the avoidance of doubt the former MP for Giro-therham is an oily toerag, a hypocritical shyster and a common thief. Still, it is an amusing intellectual exercise to pen a defence for him. Hard on the brain, but mental exercise works wonders. You should try it.

  9. Why do you think they sent 8 coppers, a helicopter and the BBC to film the raid on Cliff Richard’s flat?

    So the left could indulge in the most evil case of whataboutery when Rotherham, Oxford etc are brought up…

    “See, it’s not just Pakistani Muslim’s…”

  10. ” Britain fosters a “rape culture” that treats *FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF* rape like no other crime and stigmatises victims while excusing perpetrators”
    The Grauniad sub-editor accidentally deleted three words

  11. Here’s a thought which should please no one:

    Organising a paedophile gang is complicated, and needs experience. Where do they get the experience? Presumptively, from the extended family. So Uncle Ahmed and Cousin Abdul get together to swap notes….

    In which case the scale of sex abuse in Pakistani Muslim families dwarfs the scale of abuse in council care homes. And we have heard nothing about it. Yet.

  12. The guiding principle of the BBC is “the presentation of opposing views”?

    The far left and the extreme far left disagree often.

  13. BiF,

    You shouldn’t be so sensitive and precious, I thought your contribution amusing when reading it as the self-evident parody that it was. Above I was more specifically referring to Jim and Wasp.

  14. DocBud, you’re a sanctimonious prig. Yes, you’re such a superior being that had you been faced with your boss telling you to shut up and keep you nose out, the entire local political class, community leaders and local authority bosses all arrayed against you, and you with a wife, kids, mortgage and pension to support, you would have ignored the consequences to you and your family’s health, wealth and well being and shouted from the rooftops about what was going on. Well bully for you, with your superior moral fibre. Of course the first person who would have been calling round was Nick Griffin, as you’d have been no1 witness for his allegations, and I can guess how well that would have played out in the press ‘Junior Rotherham policeman joins BNP in accusing respected local Muslims of being paedophiles’

    I on the other hand, while hopeful that in such a situation would have had the balls to do the right thing, but with no great confidence that I would have been able to, have no qualms in saying that I fully understand why junior policemen and social workers turned a blind eye, faced with heavy opposition from above.What does sticking your head above the parapet gain, if its promptly blown off, and the war continues in exactly the same manner unaltered?

    The responsibility lies with those with power, not the foot soldiers on the ground. It wasn’t the average Wehrmacht solder on trial at Nuremberg, it was the those at the top, and thats who should be on trial in Rotherham today.

  15. I don’t know about the coppers, but I’m sure most of the social workers were true believers in the ideological reasons for this denial.

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