What’s so odd about this?

Couples who have been “living in sin” and women who had children out of wedlock will be married by Pope Francis at a ceremony at the Vatican on Sunday, in a further sign of his determination to make the Catholic Church more inclusive and compassionate.

They will be among 20 couples from Rome who will tie the knot in St Peter’s Basilica, in the first such ceremony led by the Pope in his role as Bishop of Rome since he was elected in March last year.

For the Vatican, it will be the first such event since Pope John Paul II joined eight couples in matrimony in 2000.

The prospective brides and grooms had varying personal backgrounds, the diocese of Rome said in a statement.

“There are those who are already cohabiting, those who already have children, who got to know each other in Church,” the diocese said.

It’s rather the duty of the priest to aid congregants in moving from a state of sin, such as cohabitation, to one of not sin, like marriage, isn’t it? And it is rather one of the foundations of the Catholic faith that we all err, all sin, but that a confession of such a sin, repentance, plus the attempt not to do it again is meritorious. Well, if not meritorious at least the best way that we sinful humans can deal with matters.

So, priest marries those who have decided to stop sinning. And the news value of this is?

11 comments on “What’s so odd about this?

  1. Yes, it’s a bit odd. I knew of one priest serving a remote area of the Andes. As he only visited each parish every few years, he held combined marriage and baptism services when he got there.

  2. In an age when cohabiting is the norm, I imagine the value of this news lies in reminding us there are alternative modes of behaviour.

  3. The ridiculous idea that there is such a thing as sin? Or maybe the vile practice of threatening people with, or indoctrinating them to fear, everlasting torture in hell?

    I didn’t read the article but I highly doubt that was their reason for reporting on it.

  4. Or maybe the vile practice of threatening people with, or indoctrinating them to fear, everlasting torture in hell?

    No need to get all worked up about that, old chap. Yer average Catholic priest these days looks distinctly embarrassed if anyone mentions hell. They’d far rather talk about “social justice”. Nor is this new. The same was true during my Catholic education in the 70’s. I was indoctrinated by nuns. Took me years to shake off their archaic teachings about the causes of Third World poverty, it did.

  5. So, priest marries those who have decided to stop sinning. And the news value of this is?

    There are any number of people who think that the rituals and music of the Catholic Church is rather nice. And they would like to shop around for a faith from time to time and maybe stop in on the Catholics. If only they were not so judgemental.

    So the hope that this Pope is not actually a Catholic and will make the Church more friendly to people who don’t believe springs ever eternal. They may be wrong about Frankie’s faith and orthodoxy. Or they may be right. But either way, it is their hopes speaking, not their common sense or the evidence.

  6. The news value is that some journalists thinks that it has news value – thereby exposing their anti-Catholic bigotry to anyone who chooses to apply logic.

  7. The whole hellfire bit is a remnant of Papism’s days as a political/economic (=tax thieving) power structure. Hell was the psychological threat employed to cow the mugs, to reduce the need for actual expensive violence to ensure the church got its way.

    It is still a power structure of a sort but much come down and with ever-milder milk running in its veins. It no longer has the muscle to collect cash by force or stand shoulder to shoulder in a jostling mass with the secular political trash as in days of yore.

    The idea is still in use today. The state socialist gulag etc and the corporate socialist US Federal Tyranny. They maintain an actual, physical Hell complete with costumed demons and a leavening of the truly evil to prey on those sent there. Remember Hell was also for the few who are really evil not just for those who did no harm to others but would not comply with orders. The threat of the modern day Hell serves exactly the same function now as it did then.
    Although the Pope didn’t have to shell out billions keeping it running. Maybe he and Satan should have come up with the Feds latest wheeze: make the damned work for a few cents an hour and keeps the rest for yourself.

  8. Natalie,

    “No need to get all worked up about that, old chap. Yer average Catholic priest these days looks distinctly embarrassed if anyone mentions hell. They’d far rather talk about “social justice”. Nor is this new. The same was true during my Catholic education in the 70’s. I was indoctrinated by nuns. Took me years to shake off their archaic teachings about the causes of Third World poverty, it did.”

    I assumed this was just the protestants, which goes down as well with most churchgoers as a Conservative in Bolsover.

  9. Anglicans are the absolute worst. (I’m somewhat mushy doctrinally, so get to experience several different flavours). With Anglican clergy it’s not just social justice it’s climate justice.

    Lovely people, mind.

  10. Not all Anglicans are like that…!
    Yours from the evangelical wing (where we believe in a real God, and a real heaven and hell, however unfashionable these ideas may be at present – on the grounds that fashionable or not, we have reasonable grounds to believe them to be true)

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