What bastards UKIP are, eh?

The father of the main prosecution witness in Britain’s biggest child sex grooming scandal has accused Nigel Farage of exploiting the issue for political gain as the UK Independence party attempts to unseat Labour in a Manchester byelection.

The man, known as Tom, whose daughter’s testimony led to the prosecution of nine Asian men and an overhaul of Crown Prosecution Service rules, said that the anti-federalist party had resorted to British National party-style tactics while campaigning to win Heywood and Middleton in Greater Manchester.

The town of Heywood, where Tom lives, was at the centre of the Rochdale scandal, after a sex-trafficking gang of men of mainly Pakistani origin were found to have preyed on at least 47 girls, all of whom were white.

Statements issued by Farage and leaflets distributed by his party have blamed Labour’s “love affair” with “immigration, political correctness and multiculturalism” for the betrayal of “white working-class girls”.

Political party, fighting in a byelection, uses the biggest local political scandal of the times to campaign for votes.

What bastards, eh?

36 comments on “What bastards UKIP are, eh?

  1. What the fuck?

    I generally go into eye-rolling mode when people use terms like “political correctness gone mad” but, for fuck’s sake, Ann Cryer, the local fucking Labour MP was saying this.

    It doesn’t matter if UKIP are making political capital. What matters is that politicians who do this sort of thing get fired, booted into exile or strung up from a hempen rope, pour encourager les autres.

    And seriously, you’re the girl’s father. Know why Taken was a big hit? Because that’s how protective most parents feel about their kids. If this happened to my kids I’d be telling people to vote UKIP.

  2. Right. The kind of chap who is incapable of keeping his young daughter away from rapists is just the sort of fellow to ring the Guardian to complain about UKIP leaflets.

    I smell cod,

  3. Nick Griffin said the same as Ann Cryer ten years ago and got arrested and put on trial for his troubles.

    Es ist sehr important not to disagree mit zee centre ground PC neo-Nazis, else zey vill hef you arrested for thinking the wrong thoughts. Marine Le Pen has been stripped of the legal immunity from prosecution that most MEPs enjoy. Zat makes it easier to arrest her.

    Heil Cameron, Heil Milliband, Heil Hitler.

  4. Tom will either be a leftist or have been put up to whining by leftists.It would be ordinary electioneering propaganda scummery except that it especially ironic and insolent to have a ZaNuLab stooge complaining about someone drawing attention to a colossal mess of ZaNu’s own making.

  5. The Stigler, if that happened to any of my kids there would be a few muzzles on a liquid diet for the rest of their existence.

  6. At some point the Big Parties became convinced that the public should not have a say on any of the important issues. We can debate the little things, but the big issues of the day were to be stitched up by committee behind closed doors.

    Immigration is the good example. The Tories want cheap labour. The Labour Party wants a new electorate and they hate England anyway. So we are to be denied a voice.

    This is just more of the same. God forbid that politician could f**k up in the most comprehensive way that anyone could imagine. But if they did, then allowing voters a say on their fate would be even worse!

    Hang them all.

  7. Tom doesn’t understand that if the politicos had ‘exploited’ this (i.e. raised it as a public issue) his daughter might not have been caught up in it.

  8. I probably shouldn’t have read this before I eat something. Apparently I’m a right moody bastard when my blood sugar is low and before my sertraline kicks in… but too late.

    Assuming “Tom” exists, here’s my advice to him: jump off a bridge, you worthless cunt.

    You are a miserable, pathetic failure as a father and as a man. If you had been doing your job properly, instead of being a peevish, Guardian-reading twat, your 14 year old daughter wouldn’t have been hanging around gangs of vibrants in the first place.

    What the fuck were you thinking?

    I am astonished that you apparently had enough testosterone in your shrivelled little balls to procreate in the first place. You should be on trial too.

  9. Relax Steve, I don’t think this “Tom” is real at all; the quotes lack any authenticity.

    What’s that nice young Hari up to these days?

  10. Could we also stop this shit that people who know victims have special insight into the wider issues? Victims and their friends and families deserve to have a voice regarding the effects of crimes on victims. Of course, they bloody don’t, because that would impact sentencing and then someone would have to divert money from labradoodle obesity outreach coordinators into prisons. So instead someone’s come up with the wheeze of giving them a voice regarding the causes of crime instead, which is brilliant, because then you can pretend you’re helping them while in fact you’re just using them to give undue weight to your own career-furthering propaganda.

    I might add that one thing we’ve learnt about Rochdale is that everyone knew this was going on. I wonder which girls were at greater risk: those whose parents told them to steer clear of strange men or those who, having heard that there was a major problem with girls being raped by Pakistani Muslims in the area, told their daughters never ever to avoid consorting with strange Pakistani Muslim men because that would be racist.

  11. Jack C – I’m trying mate. Honest to God, I am trying. Looking at my desk calendar and its picture of a calm blue ocean…

    Yes, the quote sounds suspiciously middle class, for one thing. I believe most of these vulnerable girls came from single mother households or their dads were useless alcoholics or something. That’s why they were vulnerable.

    The word “abhorrent” isn’t one you’d expect to hear from someone from the sort of socioeconomic background involved here.

  12. S2: only certain victims are accorded this status, and at certain times.

    I wonder what the odds would have been of ‘Tom’ getting an audience in the Guardian X years ago when this stuff was going on? Nil.

  13. Steve,
    It was “abhorrent” that did it for me too. It’s never used in genuine human speech.

    “I abhor sexism (or whatever)”: means, “The accusation against me is untrue, and doubly painful because I’m so wonderful”.

  14. ”Statements issued by Farage and leaflets distributed by his party have blamed Labour’s “love affair” with “immigration, political correctness and multiculturalism” for the betrayal of “white working-class girls”.”

    What’s he on about? How are any of these statements incorrect?

  15. Widdershins,

    It is the authorities’ love affair with immigration, political correctness and multiculturalism that is to blame for the betrayal of white working-class girls. UKIP aren’t blaming the authorities; they’re blaming Labour. Which is appalling, because of course the fact that all the authorities in Rochdale are Labour-run is mere coincidence.

  16. Tim – what’s your stance on Farage’s conversion to a corporate tax system based on turnover rather than profit? Sounds like the LHTD’s evil handiwork if you ask me

  17. I think it’s quite reasonable that ukip make an issue of this. What isn’t reasonable is if ukip help Ed Miliband into power.

  18. I dunno as I don’t know what the policy is. But something like that was proposed by the Mirrlees Review….

  19. Mr Ecks: “Tom will either be a leftist or have been put up to whining by leftists.”

    It’s mentioned in the article that the family ‘moved into the estate following the credit crunch’. Which gives an interesting perspective, no?

  20. Mirrlees Review

    Must admit – any respect I had for him has evaporated as a consequence of his support for the Yes side in the Scottish referendum, applies to Stiglitz too. Hired guns prepared to park professional integrity and objectivity for brown envelopes

  21. S2, they do allow impact statements from victims in court. They’re called Victim Personal Statements and they will be taken into account with other evidence during sentencing. Parole boards also use them.

  22. Jack C – I see that UKIP have a big conference going on now. Maybe the timing of “Tom”‘s comments are just a coincidence…

    It’s hard to imagine who the Guardian thinks is going to turn against UKIP over this. Muslim paedophile gangs? The enablers of Muslim paedophile gangs? Not sure they were likely to vote UKIP anyway.

    Ordinary English voters? Most of them want the paedos and their apologists flayed and then fed to wild dogs.

  23. It’s a good contrast.
    On the one side we have Muslim paedophile gangs and bent cops, social workers, lawyers, and councillors. That’s Labour territory.
    On the other we have poor people, their kids, and the British people who want to look after the latter. That’s UKIP territory.
    I pray that Farage smashes these bastards for this atrocity every day between now and the election.

  24. Open borders immigration fan posts support for party making political hay pointing out the consequences of mass immigration.

    UKIP siphons enough Conservative voters to ensure a Milliband / Clegg government that crushes all UKIP aspirations.

    Pundit living and working outside the UK continues to prosper writing about the sorry state of the UK.

    The world turns…

  25. JeremyT – “On the one side we have Muslim paedophile gangs and bent cops, social workers, lawyers, and councillors. That’s Labour territory. On the other we have poor people, their kids, and the British people who want to look after the latter. That’s UKIP territory. I pray that Farage smashes these bastards for this atrocity every day between now and the election.”

    We have seen something like this play out in the US. Mitt Romney was elected by married White people. The two strongest groups to vote for Obama were Blacks and single women. As Romney said, the 47% were never going to vote for him. And they didn’t.

    The fact is that the Labour voters, social workers and Pakistani peasants, will soon be the new majority. Farage can sing this tune all he likes. It won’t make any difference in a few years.

    PJF – “UKIP siphons enough Conservative voters to ensure a Milliband / Clegg government that crushes all UKIP aspirations.”

    Good. Then enough conservative voters will be so annoyed they will actually do something about it. Like purge the utterly incompetent and morally bankrupt Cameron tendency from the Conservative party. Then they may sweep to the polls next time around.

  26. @PJF

    Fuck off. I’m not voting for this Tory party (or UKIP, or anyone else, as it happens) while they are not a Tory party. If that lets Milliband in, so what? There’s no difference between them anyway.

  27. So Much for Subtlety –
    – “It won’t make any difference in a few years.”
    -“Then they may sweep to the polls next time around.”

    Logic, sir.

  28. Interested –
    “@PJF -Fuck off.”

    Thanks. Perhaps I was being too subtle in presenting three related amusingly ironic contrasts – the first actual; the two following somewhat speculative.

    As to the point in your response, I’m sure there are plenty of Americans really happy with the result of their staying home because Romney wasn’t conservative enough. If you think there’s no significant difference between the Cameron crew and the Milliband crew, then you’re just not paying attention.

  29. It wasn’t amusing, and you weren’t being subtle.
    Re Romney, at what point are people supposed to lose their souls and vote for a realpolitik that they despise?
    I have been paying attention; the day Cameron takes control of our borders, cuts public spending in half and repeals all the equality legislation I will see the difference between him and Miliband. You are being conned.

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