My Lord Darzi is a twat

Smoking should be banned in outside areas including all London’s parks and famous landmarks like Trafalgar and Parliament Square, former Health Minister Lord Darzi has proposed.

It would mean 40 per cent of London – 20,000 acres – would be smoke-free, more than any other city in the world.

Given London’s particularate pollution it’s arguable that sucking a cigarette through a filter leads to cleaner air entering your lungs than not smoking.

But even excluding that dubious possibility, what the fuck’s the man talking about? Banning smoking outside in God’s fresh air?

21 comments on “My Lord Darzi is a twat

  1. Listened to him on the radio. With him and Greenpeace, my road rage quotient went sky high this morning on my commute. He admits it’s not about the health, but all to do about moral standards, or rather his view of what everyone else’s moral standards shold be. Parks should be a paragon of health and nothing that harms that image should be allowed.

  2. Well i’ll never vote for him again or to supporting the setting up of a commission paid by my money to publish a report again.

    You vote them in right, then they recommend your liberties get taken away…………………………………….

    Cough.

  3. They’re insane. Paging Arnald and Paul B.oring, this is the kind of thing your statist worldview leads to.

  4. I hate smoking. My mum died of lung cancer. I couldn’t be more anti-smoking.

    But this is a lunatic idea.

  5. I think banning smoking in public places where you can’t avoid it actually makes more sense than the current situation, where it is banned in private places where consenting adults congregate or not as they see fit.

  6. I’m with BiG – the ban is the wrong way round, but it’s that thin end of the wedge again – in fact, didn’t they bring in the pub smoking ban on the back of employment elf’n’safety legislation?

  7. Lord Narzi eh?. The good thing about these pukes is that they suggest the manner of their own execution. This arrogant toerag will walk the Green mile (very appropriate for an ecofreak) to a lovely reconditioned San Quentin second-hander where, once he’s settled in , the air will be replaced with ciggie smoke. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke.

    We also need to apply the tactics of the health commissars recursively against themselves. I propose a law restricting peoples freedom to call for the restriction of other peoples freedom(excluding myself this one time of course). The prisons are full so the punishment will be physical. Fists, boots, baseball bats, pickaxe handles etc,etc. The bastards would think more than twice in future before shouting about their tinpot ideas for the better organising of other people’s lives.

  8. Is a Public House garden a public space? The pavement outside the pub certainly is.
    Slippery slopes, wedges, …

  9. I’m with BiG and VC. IF we have to ban smoking anywhere then I would rather it was in these public spaces where I have little choice rather than pubs.

    When I stay in London I go for a run round Hyde Park/Kensignton Gardens/Green Park and there is nothing worse than getting a gob full of smoke as I run past some, notwithstanding Tim’s point about air pollution and my efforts to avoid smokers.

  10. Another slice of the salami. How much of that salami is left?

    Remember, you aren’t on a slippery slope. At all.

  11. “former Health Minister Lord Darzi has proposed.”

    Admittedly, I’m remote and may not understand, but this begs the question, why didn’t he propose this shit while he was STILL health minister? Awfully damn easy now that he’s removed from consequences for his action.

  12. Hmmm, it’s interesting when a blog on this side of the policitical spectrum doesn’t feel able to give that particular thread header a resounding 120% yes!

  13. Ditch the fags and invest in a few pipes. Smoking a briar with a suitable aromatic tobacco is second only to walking a pup for getting oohs and aahs from appreciative strangers.

  14. and there is nothing worse than getting a gob full of smoke as I run past some

    Oh yes there is. Having to put up with the self righteous arseholes who go running in parks if far worse, barging past people trying to have a quiet walk, with the stench of their B.O. polluting the air and their oh sorry I didn’t see your dog I was fiddling like a twat with my iPod.

  15. With a possible Ebola outbreak/epidemic approaching in London, you’d think the Mayor would have bigger health priorities than people catching the whiff of a cigarette in public parks measuring several square miles in size.

  16. @PF, that would be because this side of the political spectrum indulges in far less groupthink than the other side of the political spectrum. Vide myself (perhaps one or two others) being ardent federasts in a largely euroskeptic environment. Such dissent on, say, a left-leaning blog about taxation would result in instant and permanent banishment.

  17. @IanB
    It’s worth remembering, most of London’s parks were intended for the purpose of leisurely strolling around. Maybe whilst smoking a cigar or pipe, as the preference took.
    The only people to be seen running were bag snatchers & other criminals.
    Bloke with a Boat, take note.

  18. davidseven
    I love a good pipe, but prefer proper non-scented tobacco. In my first job as a printer, early 1960’s, half of the workers smoked a pipe. For some traditional reason, the typesetters – monotype and linotype – all used snuff, their keyboards were covered with a film of it, and they each had a big brown handkerchief – brown from their sneezes.
    My favourite smoke is a really good cigar.
    Like you, I have approached by little old ladies who said how nice it was to be reminded of their late husband. A neighbour used to come and poke his head over the fence to get a whiff. I understand that smoking a pipe, in term of health risk, is equivalent to not smoking.

  19. BwiB, It’s an excellent run if you stick to the park perimeters & I’ve been doing it about 50 times a year since 2004 and have never run into fag smoke.Could be poor smell receptors I suppose.

    Ian B, There’s a hierarchy of badness in parks. Worst is bicyclists shooting down pedestrian paths, a bit less bad are Americans/Germans forming blocking lines across paths (optionally a yard either side), goes on to us runners who have made little paths for ourselves next to the thoroughfare, then the least bad – women runners with nice bottoms.

  20. BiG

    Sure. I get that.

    To follow Ian’s line – sweaty obese middle aged men with their i-pods, BO and not looking where they are going – versus a smoker I can avoid with a couple of steps. Absolutely no contest whatsoever.

    But I can’t imagine any sensible person (seriously) suggesting that we might ban all the smelly fat joggers from their daily waddle through the park?!

    And yet…

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