There’s a lot of truth to this

The universities, left press, and the arts characterise the English middle-class as Mail-reading misers, who are sexist, racist and homophobic to boot. Meanwhile, they characterise the white working class as lardy Sun-reading slobs, who are, since you asked, also sexist, racist and homophobic. The national history is reduced to one long imperial crime, and the notion that the English are not such a bad bunch with many strong radical traditions worth preserving is rejected as risibly complacent. So tainted and untrustworthy are they that they must be told what they can say and how they should behave.

Which is what leads to this of course:

In the England that does not look like London, the white, poor, uneducated constituencies that run up the east coast from Kent to Sunderland, Ukip came second in 100 seats.

25 comments on “There’s a lot of truth to this

  1. “It could not because Labour’s leadership of former special advisers does not look like the people it wants to represent and does not look as if it likes the look of them either. In this, it is typical of the wider educated left in England, which almost alone in the world, makes a virtue of denigrating its own people.”

    Well, that’s also the case in the US, for one.

  2. “since 10 October 1974, no Labour leader apart from Tony Blair has won a general election”

    Ouch.

  3. “The biggest failure of understanding is the most paradoxical. Labour and the left do not take the right seriously. They dismiss its leaders as greedy fat cats and public school toffs, and do not grasp how formidable they have become. A friend made the point when he told me that at 8.30am on Friday, when Ed Balls lost his seat, the trading floor at Credit Suisse at Canary Wharf erupted with cheers. I don’t doubt there were similar yelps of delight on every other trading floor in the City.”

    I’ll bet there was more than a few households, including this one, where the cheers were even louder. Balls represented everything that was wrong with Labour, a nasty bully boy who thought he had found a safe career which protected him from retribution. As Raedwald said, if ever there was a clinching argument against PR being able to be rid of the likes of Balls is it.

    As to the article he still doesn’t get what’s wrong with Labour, the only thing that keeps it together is a hatred of Tories. This is why they are stuck with their lies about the NHS because they can’t agree on anything. The parody of the left in Life of Brian was based on more than a kernel of truth and they are unable to agree on anything positive.

  4. Interesting quote from Chuka Umunna:

    “sometimes we made it sound like we saw taxing people as a good in itself, rather than a means to an end.”

    Does that mean if he gets the leadership that Murphy’s out on his ear?

  5. “the white, poor, uneducated constituencies that run up the east coast”: it’s them fuckin’ German immigrants, innit? Where’s King Arthur when you need him?

  6. @BiND
    ” Labour and the left do not take the right seriously. They dismiss its leaders as greedy fat cats and public school toffs,”

    What leaders? The right hasn’t had any leaders for a generation.. Some social democratic poseurs, maybe.

  7. Rather obviously, the English generally are a socially liberal people. They are not “sexist, racist and homophobic”. In fact, we now know that that description applies to something less than 12.6% of the UK voting population.

  8. So, let’s hope that Labour continues over the next 5 years its policy of appealing to middle england by calling them racists, selfish bastards who hate the poor, and so on.

    After all, people respond so well to being shamed into voting for a party, that after another 5 years of beration they’re sure to return a landslide.

  9. abacab – “So, let’s hope that Labour continues over the next 5 years its policy of appealing to middle england by calling them racists, selfish bastards who hate the poor, and so on.”

    Labour and what passes as the Tories will continue to flood the UK with Third World peasants until the new electorate will happily agree that White British people are evil and should be made to pay.

    Many people on this blog will live to see White British people a threatened minority in a country that used to be theirs.

  10. Social Justice Warrior – “In fact, we now know that that description applies to something less than 12.6% of the UK voting population.”

    No we don’t. Because people vote for parties for many different reasons. And given that none of the parties had a platform that was openly racist, sexist or homophobic. In fact virtually all of them had a platform that was openly anti-White, pro-women and fawningly pro-Gay.

    So some unknown percentage of Labour and even Green voters were and are racist. It just was not the main factor in voting – and they had no party that was racist or sexist or homophobic to vote for.

  11. The poor and uneducated will want a quite different UKIP to the one you support, Tim.

  12. Theophrastus – “The poor and uneducated will want a quite different UKIP to the one you support, Tim.”

    And we see the Cameronite dislike of the British public. No wonder he is working so hard to replace us with Somalis.

  13. “Many people on this blog will live to see White British people a threatened minority in a country that used to be theirs.”

    Nonsense.

    Current muslim population about 2.7% of total. Annual immigration (all sources) roughly 0.5% of total, ignoring emigration.

    So unless each immigrant family has about 50 kids, and readers on here live to 150, then it ain’t going to happen.

  14. I delved into the torrid depths of a CiF comment thread under a piece of Owen Jones nonsense. What struck me was the number of lefties who cast their vote for Lab so as to be supposedly compassionate and altruistic towards the “working classes”. The same working classes which Nick Cohen points out that the metropolitan lefties hate, think are racist, uneducated, uncultured Sun-reading louts etc.

    It’s almost as if they want to elect a new working class to replace the actually existing one, which seems to disappoint them by not conforming to Marx’s vision of them.

  15. We are all to blame, in that – back in Blair days, when money was thrown about like confetti – rather that chivvy our sick, lame and lazy, we gave people pocket money to stay out the way – imported better educated, harder working, more ambitious people. Since 2008, when the money ran out, we have tried hard to redress the situation – and ten years from now Britain might be back on the straight and narrow. At which time it will be foot off the pedal and time for a return to Labour.

  16. Mr Brands silly video of this opinion on the election result seemed to think there’d be an increase in general maliciousness and meanness, I wonder what political colour we thinks the people who wrote “Tory scum” on the women’s war memorial are (and those who wrote similar sentiments on fences showing Conservative signs round my way)?

    The legend that only the “other side” are horrendous continue, in this day and age, it is blatant tribalism, and the English are better than that, as we saw.

  17. I’d echo BiF. As fast as they arrive, the good British people will get to corrupting them. Left to get on with it. Their “cultures” won’t survive a generation.
    In a sense, a lot of the stuff people like SMfS get so excited about is this process in progress. Failing attempts by the new arrivals to resist.
    How many Afro-Carribeans are there actually buy into the whole “black culture” thing? Apart from the odd weekend in August?

  18. SMFS

    “And we see the Cameronite dislike of the British public.”

    No, we don’t. I was simply alluding to what I’ve said on here before – that a working class, increasingly northern UKIP would be a different beast to a southern, libertarian UKIP. The more UKIP eats into Labour’s vote, the better.

  19. BiF:”Islam is the second largest religion with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 giving the UK Muslim population in 2011 as 2,786,635, 4.4% of the total population.” 4.4 % of the population not 2–. In the 2001 census it was 1.6 million. That assumes of course the census is accurate which is unlikely–not counting illegals. And how many of the 300,000 a year arriving her are RoP.

    As for “corrupting” them–the Jihadis are from the ranks of the young–those who should have been “corrupted” by western ways.

    Complacent nonsense.

  20. B(n)is

    “As fast as they arrive, the good British people will get to corrupting them. Left to get on with it. Their “cultures” won’t survive a generation.”

    But that has not happened and is not happening. To take just a few examples… In parts of the UK, more second and third generation Muslim women wear the veil than first generation. The transplanted village hierachies of the Punjab are doing very well in the election fraud stakes. And ISIS is recruiting suicide bombers and fighters from nominally British citizens.

  21. Mr X

    Apologies. I took my stats from David Goodhart’s the British Dream, and from Paul Collier. From memory.

    (Both are notoriously leftist, but are in fact serious commentators.)

    But even on your figures, the swamping of indigenous Brits won’t happen. Two reasons. Urbanisation. And rising wealth both in the origin and destination countries.

  22. @bind – “the only thing that keeps it together is a hatred of Tories” – yes, i often wonder if that is the defining property of what is “left”.

  23. I actually thought that article was quite interesting. Serious introspection rather than whining about why it was all someone else’s fault.

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