32 comments on “Idiot

  1. How typical of a lefty to insist that his self-identification should (and WILL!) drive everyone else’s! Personally, I can’t get terribly excited about nationalism, whether England, UK or EU(?) but let people decide for themself.

  2. It’s not often I find myself in agreement with Paul Mason but I too wish he wasn’t English.

  3. When Tibetans want to retain their culture, identity and way of life, lefities ooze with sympathy. When white English people want to do the same, lefties start screaming insults like “racist”, “xenophobe” etc.

    All of which proves that lefties are a bunch of racist tw*ts.

  4. “the influx of working-class kids means I can now support the England rugby union team without feeling my class identity besmirched.”
    He has disappeared up his own fundament! How about if he asked said working class kids if they were class warriors or evil Englishmen? I do hope someone would be provoked to demonstrate why they were selected.

  5. There should be no Palestinian identity. They should just be absorbed into the Israeli identity.

    *steps back*
    *watches multiple explosions of lefty brains*

  6. ‘the influx of working-class kids means I can now support the England rugby union team without feeling my class identity besmirched.’

    It’s always about class for these people. The team that won the RWC 2003 was led by a former State school pupil.

    Meanwhile, although you can’t apparently draw any homogeneity between Wigan and Henley (other than the fact that you can, because they’re both in England and in the current and recent England rugby set-up guys from both places have played together and been great friends), there IS a homogenous place called ‘Scotland’, where people from the Highland and Islands are just the same as the deep fried Mars Bars scoffers in the Gorbals.

    I get more English by the day, personally.

  7. “When Tibetans want to retain their culture, identity and way of life, lefities ooze with sympathy”

    Considering that it is Chicom socialist scum who are trying to destroy Tibetan identity/culture, leftist sympathy is the worst kind of crocodile tearing hypocrisy.

  8. I thought Lawrence went to Ampleforth?
    I am not comfortable with Englishness thrust into national politics above all because it will be messed around co-opted and changed.

  9. “An English identity exists. Deal with it.”

    He is dealing with it. Him and his fellow travellers are desperate to abolish it.

  10. @Rob
    He is dealing with it. Him and his fellow travellers are desperate to abolish it.

    To mirror his words, any attempt to abolish it will fail.

  11. Dr Cromarty, Ralph Musgrave,
    The Tibetans and the Palestinians can maintain their identities because they are oppressed. White working-class English, despite their declining numbers, are apparently not oppressed.

  12. He is “…the grandson of a Lithuanian Jew on one side, and some miners and weavers whose roots go back for centuries…”. I am the great grandson of at least three Irish immigrants, I think at least one of the other five was Scottish. I am English and happy to be so (having won Cecil Rhodes’ “lottery of life” 😉 ).

  13. Are we sure this isn’t Richard Murphy writing under a pseudonym? What an arrogant piece of self -regard – truly wretched stuff even by the Guardian’s dismal standards…..

  14. I wonder what those miners and weavers would have thought of him. I imagine they would have thought him a bit of a tosser, really, and been deeply suspicious of him.

  15. “I thought Lawrence went to Ampleforth?” Then his Dad had more sense than the Dad of a certain person, eh?

  16. Dr Cromarty – “There should be no Palestinian identity. They should just be absorbed into the Israeli identity.”

    There is no such thing as a Palestinian identity. They are just Syrians. Or Egyptians in the case of Yasir Arafat.

    But it is the rule isn’t it? Africa should be for Africans. Asia for Asians. White countries are for everyone.

  17. There was a case a few years back of an English local council pulling up one of their dustmen for wearing a St George’s Cross bandana because it was racist. The dustmen was using the bandana to hold back his dreadlocks.

    Fuckwits like Mason are beyond parody.

    (Mason also lost it on Channel 4, ranting about bankers while standing in front of my office. “I’m here in front of RBS headquarters…” No you’re not, mate. Wrong building. So why would I trust you to get any of the other details right?)

  18. HB he did but only on a scholarship of some sort (one assumes not academic).

    I was there too – what a night.

  19. There is no such thing as a Palestinian identity

    I know that. You know that. Try explaining it a leftie of the kuffya wearing variety.

  20. Saying there’s no such thing as a Palestinian identity is as stupid as saying there isn’t an English one. Whether you believe the Palestinians to be Syrian/Egyptian/Jordanian is immaterial; they believe themselves to be Palestinian. Thus, there is a Palestinian identity. Like there most definitely is an English identity, whether or not Mr Mason believes it exists or not.

  21. Saying there’s no such thing as a Palestinian identity is as stupid as saying there isn’t an English one.

    If Levantines want to self-define as Palestinians that’s fine by me. The point I was making (see up the thread) is that a leftie of a certain flavour would argue black is white if it meant being able to deny Englishness and the English .

  22. Dr

    A Leftie would be more likely to argue that white is black. To say black is white would be racist and so, haram.

  23. There is no good answer.
    Since there has already existed an English identity for more thanh a milennium, why should this idiot want to argue about creaturing one?

  24. mainly O/T, but a must-read for Worstall.
    “Three hundred years of low non-paternity in a human population – “Here we use this approach to investigate 1273 conceptions over a period of 330 years in 23 families of the Afrikaner population in South Africa. We use haplotype frequency and diversity and coalescent simulations to show that the male population did not undergo a severe bottleneck and that paternity exclusion rates are high for this population. The rate of cuckoldry in this Western population was 0.9% (95% confidence interval 0.4–1.5%), and we argue that given the current data on historical populations we have to conclude that, at least for Western human populations, cuckoldry rate is probably in the range of 1%.” – h/t HBD chick.

  25. dearieme – “The rate of cuckoldry in this Western population was 0.9% (95% confidence interval 0.4–1.5%), and we argue that given the current data on historical populations we have to conclude that, at least for Western human populations, cuckoldry rate is probably in the range of 1%.”

    Assuming Bible-reading Dutch Calvinists are typical of the Western population in general.

  26. “Assuming Bible-reading Dutch Calvinists are typical of the Western population in general.” Specifically that the wives were: the men were presumably also busy shagging their slaves, thereby spawning the Cape Coloureds. Shades of Thomas Jefferson.

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