Well, be quick I suppose

Defence minister Hyon Yong-Chol was brutally executed in Pyongyang
He was killed after falling asleep in meetings and talking back to Kim
Officials killed him with an ZPU-4 anti-aircraft gun in front of hundreds of bloodthirsty officials at a military camp near the capital
Likely to have been shot from just 100 feet – despite gun’s 26,000 feet range

You’re not going to stay conscious long with anti-aircraft fire hitting you now, are you?

28 comments on “Well, be quick I suppose

  1. Well, four 14.5 mm guns?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZPU

    API (BS.41) – Full metal jacket bullet round with a tungsten carbide core. Projectile weight is 64.4 g (2.27 oz) and muzzle velocity is 1,000 metres per second (3,300 ft/s). Armor-penetration at 500 m (550 yd) is 32 mm (1.3 in) of RHA at 90 degrees.[4]
    API-T (BZT) – Full metal jacket round with a steel core. Projectile weight is 59.56 g (2.101 oz) and muzzle velocity is 1,005 m/s (3,297 ft/s). Tracer burns to at least 2,000 m (2,200 yd).

    Seems a bit of over-kill, so to speak, to me. But would it be quick? My guess would be that it would cut him in half at, roughly, the waist. Depending where they were aiming. Death would follow from oxygen starvation to the brain, but unconsciousness would probably occur in a few seconds due to a lack of blood pressure in the brain.

    It would certainly be *thorough*

  2. The commies have always been good at executing ppl — tons of experience after all. Soviets went for a pistol to the back of the head, which has got to be the quickest way to check out.

    King Kim the Third must have purged all of his old mans cronies by now?

  3. Apparently it is the act of a leader who feels ‘insecure’, according to the BBC news website. Not a homicidal crazy dictator then.

  4. Apparently killing one senior person a week. I think the general rule is close family gets it as well, distant family and neighbours go to the Gulag. The best that can be said is that policy will soon get him a dose of his own medicine.

  5. “Apparently it is the act of a leader who feels ‘insecure’”

    Yeah, that’s the usual bollocks that gets trotted out whenever Kim decides to have a general reduced to a fine paste.

    Nonsense of course. The NK Military have never, ever posed even a tiniest threat to the Kims. That awful family really do have the place locked down tight.

    I wonder what the Chinese are really getting out of propping up this hellhole (though there is the occasional sign that they are getting narked). Received wisdom is that they get a buffer state between themselves and the US troops in SK. But no-one, not even Tom Clancy when he was at his most fanciful, genuinely thinks that the Americans and Chinese are going to have a scrap.

  6. @ Noel – “The best that can be said is that policy will soon get him a dose of his own medicine.”

    Sadly I think not. If the generals did decide to have a clean sweep they would have done it during the famine of the 90s which could have provided some cover. Unfortunately NK is stuck with Fat Boy, best scenario is that his heart explodes in ten years or so.

  7. I see SMFS is also a Professor of Military Physiology. Is there no limit to the man’s talents?

  8. Rob – “Apparently it is the act of a leader who feels ‘insecure’, according to the BBC news website. Not a homicidal crazy dictator then.”

    It is an interestingly implicit pro-Kim double standard. Suppose I thought my neighbour was plotting to kill me. And I took an AK-47 to him and his immediate family. How, exactly, do you think the BBC would report that? Suppose, now, that my neighbour was Black.

    Evil has its own fascination. The Left is not ashamed of it.

    Bloke in Germany – “I see SMFS is also a Professor of Military Physiology. Is there no limit to the man’s talents?”

    Apparently not. Is there is a limit to your pettiness?

  9. “Suppose, now, that my neighbour was Black.”

    Wait, what? The fuck does that have to do with anything?

  10. Dan, “I wonder what the Chinese are really getting out of propping up this hellhole (though there is the occasional sign that they are getting narked).”

    They don’t want a few million starving refugees pouring over the border looking for food.

  11. Dan – “Wait, what? The fuck does that have to do with anything?”

    How would the BBC report it? There are clearly different sorts of irrational paranoias that they would report in very different ways.

  12. “They don’t want a few million starving refugees pouring over the border looking for food.”

    They don’t want a doubled up South Korea on their border competing with them. However the East German mess would be small fry compared to trying to bring NK into the modern world.

  13. SMFS

    Don’t forget Kim would have been behind the sights so the poor bugger undoubtedly got it right between the eyes…

  14. Oh, he’s giving an example to illustrate a point. Something that he spent half of yesterday getting very angry about when I did it. But hey, he has his own rules. Presumably based on his race.

  15. re: SMfS

    The left doesn’t just have fascination with evil, they wish they can operate it here in the West the way Kim does it over there. This is all the way back to the days of Uncle Joe and Uncle Vladimir.

  16. Nothing would destroy the South Korean economy quicker than unification with the Norks.

    Originally China was probably just helping a fellow Communist regime. Now I think it’s fear of a refuge crisis as DJ pointed out above.

  17. How long till someone on Comment is Free suggests this for Tory voters. Because they made lefties cry.

  18. Sooner or later one or more of the top brass are going to realise that being shot with anti-aircraft guns because you dozed off is a precarious sort of existence, and the fat loony will be no more.

  19. Gives new meaning to being put up against the wall. You’d probably have to rebuild the wall each time as well.

  20. I think the Chinese just don’t want a land border with a rich democracy and North Korea makes a useful buffer against that.

  21. We’ve never seen anything like what a reunification of North and South Korea would look like. East and West Germany had the wall for only 28 years and by the time it came down living standards had diverged by only a few times. There was a good deal of cultural flow from West to East as although I’m sure the Ossis might have liked to have sealed themselves off, they couldn’t. South Korea’s GDP per capita is something like fifty times greater than the North’s, and there’s been 60+ years of almost complete isolation. They’re even physically different now as decades of malnutrition have made the average adult in the North 15-20cm shorter than in the South. I suppose some day the collapse will come but it’s going to be appalling when it does.

  22. Squander Two – “Oh, he’s giving an example to illustrate a point. Something that he spent half of yesterday getting very angry about when I did it. But hey, he has his own rules. Presumably based on his race.”

    Your example was irrelevant. All of them were. As you more or less admitted. Mine was not. It is a simple rule.

  23. John miller – “Don’t forget Kim would have been behind the sights so the poor bugger undoubtedly got it right between the eyes…”

    The dilemma of being Little Fatty Kim – do you pull the trigger yourself or do you watch from a safe distance? You know, it is problem.

    BigFire – “The left doesn’t just have fascination with evil, they wish they can operate it here in the West the way Kim does it over there.”

    Although they can’t admit this even to themselves. I think they would be happier if they could. Certainly the Left has long shown an unhealthy interest in people who torture and murder.

    Rob – “Sooner or later one or more of the top brass are going to realise that being shot with anti-aircraft guns because you dozed off is a precarious sort of existence, and the fat loony will be no more.”

    I am sure they all realise it. But who are you going to tell? Your wife? Your children? Don’t count on them. Your colleagues? A coup is hard to organise if you can’t even trust your daughter.

  24. @ SMFS
    Being little fatty Kim you watch from a safe distance. It is only genuine kings like James II of Scotland who get killed when the cannon blows up.

  25. > Your example was irrelevant. All of them were. As you more or less admitted. Mine was not. It is a simple rule.

    Your example was relevant to a separate point that you wished to make about race and the BBC, not to the original story.

    I actually have no problem with people raising points that are tangential to the original story. It’s what conversation is all about. It’s you who decided it must not be tolerated. So don’t fucking do it, then.

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