I want Len McCluskey to win!

Labour was being ripped apart on Saturday as an epic struggle for the party’s soul threatened to destroy its election hopes for a generation.

Jim Murphy, a respected and moderate Blairite, left his colleagues stunned and distraught by quitting as Scottish Labour leader after a “poisonous” war with the party’s biggest trade union paymasters.

In parting remarks, he warned that it would be “the kiss of death” if Labour caved in to the demands of hard-Left union bosses such as Len McCluskey, the general secretary of Unite, who backed Ed Miliband as Labour leader.

Mr Murphy warned that Mr McCluskey must not be allowed to choose the next leader of the party.

No, go on, make it Owen Jones! Ritchie maybe. Galloway!

Let’s see the Labour Party really go down.

There is a possibility, remote I know but it’s there, that a party will do to the North what the SNP did to Labour in Scotland. And that really would be that then. Because the Islingtonistas wouldn’t stay with a party that never offered them an opportunity of power.

Please, go as far and as hard left as you can. With lots more Social Justice Warrior stuff.

26 comments on “I want Len McCluskey to win!

  1. Oh, yes, definitely.

    As much Poe’s Law trolling as possible needs to be injected into their echo chamber so that they convince themselves that there’s a momentum for a loony unionista. Even better, one of the Clause 4 -type.

  2. One of the most amazing aspects of this election that I found is the belief by Labour that the public either want union control of government or can’t see it happening. You only have to be 45 or so to know about the last time this was the case, and that’s a substantial part of the electorate. It was rejected back then and it’ll be rejected now.

  3. Runcie,

    It’s their religious belief that their message and their position is objectively good, in everyone’s interest, and that anyone opposing it must necessarily be motivated by evil.

    Hence the first response is always “we didn’t get our message across properly” (cos if we had then everyone would have seen the light and voted for us). The idea that they did get it across and people didn’t like the sound of it is heresy.

    Hence, we get blaming the BBC for not having been biased towards them (which they see as being “neutral” since their position is self-evidently correct), protesting in the streets against the electorate (which is what it was, frankly), and all the other nonsense that makes people glad they voted Tory.

    I think they should be encouraged to continue their strategy of trying to shame people into voting for them, cos there’s nothing a Brit likes to be subjected to more than emotional blackmail by spittle-flecked loonies.

    And a transport strike will primarily affect Tory voters commuting into London – another example of trying to punish people for voting the “wrong” way.

    And as for Tim’s other point about someone picking off the North, UKIP could pursue, like the Lib Dems did, a 2-prong strategy – aiming to pick off Lab voters in the North, and to pick off Tory voters in the South.

    Alternatively, a “Northern Labour” appealing to a misty-eyed view of the industrial power of Norths gone by, almost a Northern Nationalist party of the Left, could pull votes, if not seats, from Lab.

  4. Jim Murphy, a respected and moderate Blairite

    He’s the ultimate careerist politician, never had a proper job, despised and reviled by the Scottish electorate at large. He’s like the animated corpse of zombie New Labour.

  5. A revisit to I’m Alright jack, and Fred Kite usually gains perspective, unless you are a leftard, in which case its no longer a work of satire.

  6. abacab,

    “Alternatively, a “Northern Labour” appealing to a misty-eyed view of the industrial power of Norths gone by, almost a Northern Nationalist party of the Left, could pull votes, if not seats, from Lab.”

    Labour are in a real pickle. The SNP are probably not going to budge until Scotland becomes independent. People in England don’t want a Lab/SNP coalition. The odds of Labour getting a majority in England and Wales is pretty small (did Blair do it once?). If they try to shift right to win places like Swindon, will a socialist party appear in the North?

  7. Scotland was the earthquake, but Wales was quite interesting too. The Tories won 11 out of 40 seats, Labour got 37% of the vote in what is meant to be a solid Labour country. UKIP came third with 14%.

    The times are a-changing!

  8. The problem is, nobody presented any believable positives to win this election. We had the lying socialist git, the cretin and the Scotch Pixie. The cretin argued that the git would eat everyones firstborn and the git argued that the cretin and the Scotch Pixie would turn us into porridge wogs.

    When troubleshooters go into an ailing company they first look at the positives, to see what makes the company worth saving.

    But for Labour, there just aren’t any. So the next leader has a bit of a problem…

  9. Dear God,

    Please will you destroy the Labour Party, and return us to your natural order of Whigs vs Tories?

    Yours

    A Dreamer.

  10. I must confess I didn’t see this coming but it now looks obvious with all the available hindsight that Labour is finished. I thought it would take Scottish devolution but clearly not.

    The facts – with respect to social justic warriors – really are conservative.

    Now we just need to find some conservatives!

  11. The time has come to give RM maximum exposure with loads of links to his site. The “go-to” favourite “economist” of the left can help bury the left.

  12. “Wales was quite interesting too. The Tories won 11 out of 40 seats, Labour got 37% of the vote in what is meant to be a solid Labour country. UKIP came third with 14%.”

    I visit Wales quite a lot, as my family have moved down there, and I have friends there too. There’s a lot of ex-pat English down there now, drawn in by the cheap property prices, and one suspects the fact one is escaping the increasing horrors of multicultural England. Its only the old industrial areas that continue to vote Labour, out of pure tribal connection rather than any actual advantage, and that vote will continue to contract, gnawed at by increased affluence from the English incomers, and the UKIP attraction for the lumpen proletariat.

  13. Dearieme – In the context above, doesn’t it have to be:

    Lying socilalist git – Dave

    Cretin – Ted

    Pixie – Nicky

    Which sounds about right?

  14. The old industrial tribal Labour vote appears to be slowly realising that metropolitan labour hate their guts and everything they stand for (except as vote fodder).

  15. Abacab

    “And as for Tim’s other point about someone picking off the North, UKIP could pursue, like the Lib Dems did, a 2-prong strategy – aiming to pick off Lab voters in the North, and to pick off Tory voters in the South.”

    UKIP could in theory win big in the North and help wipe out Labour forever. To do that, though, their anti-immigration populist wing would have to be in charge, and the de-regulating libertarians (Carswell, Wheeler) would have to accept the party moving to the left in some policy areas. Hence, why the kippers are currently fighting like rats in a sack (as I predicted they would).

    As for the Limp Dicks, their strategy was not as simple as you suggest. Endlessly opportunistic, they tried to be all things to all voters, but that is a much harder trick to pull off in the age of social media. Also, they imagined that protest voters actually sympathised with their often dingbat policies. Now, the protest vote has several potential homes, including UKIP. The Limp Dicks are probably finished.

  16. The Lib Dems have every chance of holding on to Orkney and Shetland. It might therefore be sensible to appoint their MP for as party leader.

  17. Theo. Theo, Theo–you don’t even have magnanimity in “victory” never mind defeat. What kind of state you will be in after BlueRinse presides impotently over the big crash and all your money is bank-jacked and/or worthless doesn’t bear thinking about.

    One can easily be a Libertarian and an opponent of Immigration–when immigration is a bogus label being used to cover attempts to bring about the balkanisation and undermining of the native population. A small country cannot survive being flooded with people who can’t even spell Liberty never mind support it. Nor can Libertarianism be unleashed overnight as much as I would like it to be.Given that the poison of the state is everywhere today it would hardly be much of a problem for UKIP to support increasing freedom while insuring that the stolen money continues to go to poorer areas. Freedom would support better economic performance for the UK and might help us take advantage of the increasingly corrupt and socialistic world economic system. There is zero chance of that with BlueRinse and his arrogant, authoritarian gang “in charge”. I support being rid of the NHS and the Welfare state but not overnight. Exactly as was intended by first Labour and later Tory scum, millions now depend on the state. Just shutting the Ill-fare State down overnight would have a disastrous effect. All supporters of freedom need to recognise that. There must be a far-reaching plan to dismantle the state gradually over the next 40-50 years, giving people plenty of time to adjust and attitudes to change.

    Farage is –like Carswell and all the rest of the political dross -an ego-man. He is a great spokesman but a poor organiser and too fond of being top dog. Carswell is ambitious and a jumped up talker whose commitment to freedom goes only as far as he can make it serve him. He sees his sole status as why he should lead. In fact neither of them are what UKIP needs.

    Politics is a poisonous caper.

  18. Wait one second, Tim.
    We’ve already had a few Islingtonistas infiltrating the Conservative Party and it is seriously incompetent at the sort of paranoia needed to keep those vile parasites out. Fifty years ago (give or take a year) my local Young Conservative branch was infiltrated by a Trotskyite who had already been expelled by the Labour Party Young Socialists and the Young Liberals and he was only spotted because another YC while visiting the local library noticed him reading the library’s copy of the Daily Worker. I joined the OU Liberal Party Group because it talked relatively serious politics (while OUCA and OULabour were dominated by would-be MPs who did not, and mostly could not) and in three years no-one realised that I was a paid-up member of the Conservative Party.
    Of course we want the decent old-fashioned Labour guys to dump the Islingtonistas BUT asking the Islingtonistas to dump them and move one to another food-source is not the right answer.

  19. Boundary changes will stuff up Labour in England. Someone on BBC’s Sunday Politics suggested it won’t be straightforward, but I don’t see it. The Boundary Commission revisits its last effort (2012/3?) and updates it a bit, then we get some legislation. The real danger is that a load of ‘special interests’ will knobble the MPs before it gets voted on. I’m assuming the BC is sufficiently independent to produce a demographically appropriate result, but you never know.

  20. “I’m assuming the BC is sufficiently independent to produce a demographically appropriate result, but you never know.” If it survived the Balir years without being Blairised, it’s rather unusual.

  21. I want Mrs Ed Balls to win. Because, you know, I don’t think we have seen enough of Ed in politics and seeing him trying to keep out of the fray, and inevitably failing, will add greatly to the general gaiety of the nation.

    And because I hate them all with a passion.

  22. @ dearieme
    I beg your pardon.
    The Boundary Commission overallocated seats to Labour-favouring areas, notably Scotland and inner-cities by about 10%. How do you imagine that Blair got 403 seats with only 35% pf the votes; 84% more seats than the Tories with only 9% more votes?
    The BC may be filled with honourable individuals but they work according to rules set by Parliament and Tony Blair’s team carefully designed the rules to favour Labour. Look at the data – Cameron got a higher %age of votes than Blair but not a majority.

  23. @the stigler – “The odds of Labour getting a majority in England and Wales is pretty small (did Blair do it once?). ” – IIRC the he carried England twice – a massive achievement for a labour leader.

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