Tee hee

Long term vegetarianism can lead to genetic mutations which raise the risk of heart disease and cancer, scientists have found.

It’s a generational thing though, so you can be a veggie but you mustn’t make your children so.

Lentils for you and t-bones for the kids!

16 comments on “Tee hee

  1. I was a vegetarian for about 20 years and was always bemused at the “tee hee” sort of reaction whenever research showed something or other. A vegetarian diet might make you more susceptible to some diseases, maybe less susceptible to others but why non-vegetarians felt the need to justify their own diet or ask me to justify mine or indulge in gloating at stories like this one I could never work out.

    Sample conversations being:

    Them “well I don’t eat much meat myself”

    Me “I couldn’t give a fuck what you eat”

    or

    Them “well, I’ve heard the vegetarian diet is lacking in vitamin B12”

    Me “uh, yeah, I need to have a marmite sandwich about once a fortnight to cope, or, duh, vitamin pills and besides do you even know what vitamin B12 is?”

    OR

    Them “Well, I’ve heard they use bits of fish to filter beer”

    me “Cheers. Fuck off”

  2. Andrew C: you were misinformed about Marmite. Yeast extract provides plenty of B group vitamins but not B12. You should have been smearing rendered cow ie Bovril or Fray Bentos on your toast.

  3. Article says something slightly different. In populations that have lived on a vegetarian diet for many generations, there has been selection for a natural mutation which makes people more likely to thrive when young while eating no meat, since it makes them better able to take up essential fatty acids which are not abundant in plant materials, though they are in meat. This mutation has the effect, also, of making people more likely to develop cancer or heart disease later in life, which is from the evolutionary point of view better than failing to reproduce when younger.

    So, it isn’t that vegetarianism causes harmful mutations; it’s that it selects for mutations which are good for young vegetarians, though harmful later.

  4. why non-vegetarians felt the need to justify their own diet or ask me to justify mine or indulge in gloating at stories like this one I could never work out.

    It’s mostly likely IMHO a reaction to the thick clouds of smug self-satisfaction that emanates from most vegetarians, combined with a two-finger salute to the “meat is murder” brigade.

  5. Lentils and rice stored in third world conditions contain first class protein and B12 in the form of weavils, to the benefit of the consumer. First world vegies usually are too squeamish and too rich and throw out the infestation.

  6. @BiW

    As I said, I really didn’t care what other people ate and I don’t like animals much. They tend to shit everywhere or bite me. Or both.

    @ljh

    Oh well, Maybe it was milk or my vitamin pills. Whatever it was I didn’t die from lack of B12.

  7. From “The Book of Dreams ” by Jack Vance.

    A scene on the planet “New Concept” 1500 years in the future.

    “Gersen leaned back in his chair and looked out across the fells. The sun stood at its zenith; across a low ridge in the middle distance ran a pack of animals, gambolling and curvetting on long, lank legs. They darted into the shadow of a thicket and began to graze on a growth of green sedge.

    “This doesn’t seem a particularly well-managed world” said Gersen. ” I don’t see any signs of agriculture”

    “Its been tried ” said Mayneth” The Feeks destroy crops before they get started. There is no keeping them out short of poison which is prohibited.”
    “I noticed classical ruins out near the space terminal. Do they represent the “New Concept”?”

    ” The original structures were the gift of a mad philanthropist. The “New Concept” was dietary–vegetarianism in fact, mixed with stints of meditation. For fifty years the settlers lived in the great Temple of Organic Unity. They ate alfalfa sprouts, collard greens and odd bits of native vegetation. The human form is wonderfully adaptable. The settlers adapted all too well, and there they are now–“Mayneth pointed to the pack of lank animals grazing under a thicket “-having their lunch… Such is the dark side of vegetarianism”.

  8. Bloke in Wales: a reaction to the thick clouds of smug self-satisfaction that emanates from most vegetarians

    …to say nothing of the less metaphorical clouds that can emanate from eaters of pulses and legumes.

  9. But congratz, AndrewC, for obviously not being one of those sorts of vegetarians.

    Yes, that’s why I said “most” 🙂

  10. My reaction to veggies/vegans is that, as always, the intolerant militants sour the situation for the moderates. When they start demanding that not only human diets change, but eg that cat owners feed their pets green salads the gloves have to come off.

  11. “I don’t like animals much. They tend to shit everywhere or bite me.”

    Me too. So I eat the fuckers. That’ll learn ’em.

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