Wondrous argument here from Polly

Letting Fox own Sky will start the campaign to undermine the very notion of impartiality and accuracy. We should never let our impartiality rules go: they make BBC news the most trusted around the world.

Thus, whatever the rules that would govern Sky News, the BBC would continue on with that impartiality, wouldn’t it?

37 comments on “Wondrous argument here from Polly

  1. This from Polly deserves a torrent of mockery. But it… it just mocks itself.

    I’m not sure there’s anything left to be said when you have Polly Toynbee, the BBC and “impartiality” in the same article.

  2. The BBC oozes CM shite from its every pore.

    Everything it does from “news” to Drama is packed with CM propaganda.

    I see they have another Agatha Christie on their pathetic Xmas schedules.

    Last year they had “And Then There Were None” and they managed to pack every CM hate-cliché in there that they possibly could.

    Anyone like to bet that this years travesty will not also be packed with leftist agit-prop?

  3. Last year they had “And Then There Were None”

    You mean “Ten Little Niggers”? Fucking cultural marxists, making her change the name. Hang on, Ecks, you’re using the new name too – clearly you need to be purged.

  4. The idea that the BBC News is any way “impartial” is laughable. I wouldn’t trust the BBC to give me the correct time these days, without it being linked somehow to one its favoured groups.

  5. Truly the woman dost live in another universe to the rest of the World. Perhaps a little bit of introspection might not go amiss. Why doesn’t the Guardian have the power the Sun does? Because more people read the Sun that’s why.

  6. BBC news the most trusted around the world

    Those were the days. Ever since the World Service stopped being funded out of the FCO budget (thanks, Wm Hague) but out of the licence fee, it is a station of alien voices gabbling and stumbling over simple English but pumping out the same “enlightened” news as the rest of the BBC.

  7. Matthew l–Logic –never your strong suit–should tell you that had I used the original plays title, those not knowledgeable of the connection would have swarmed to point out that no play called “Ten Little Niggers” was part of the BBCs pathetic Xmas viewing last year.

    Perhaps in some alternative universe a much better version of the play was put out under that title by an alternative BBC not full of leftist shite.

    Also for the twentieth time of telling to CM-suckers on the blog, my idea of a purge is to remove the taxpayers tit from the left’s fetid gob. I am not proposing a general socialist-style massacre as tempting as that is.

    Of course–as is common with the left and left-leaning– given a choice between reality and their poisonous ideas about reality, the poisoners win every time.

  8. The comic thing is she’ll be even further out of kilter with that statement. For many Corbynites the BBC, very far from being impartial they consider the BBC ‘neoliberal’ and insufficiently deferential to the messiah himself. Murphy certainly holds to that position, as do many of his followers. The BBC is ‘on the hard right’

  9. Tim

    Thank God it’s Christmas! And the ‘Santa of Ely’ is in vintage form today:

    You have to read his post on ‘the tipping point for real change may be closer than we think’ – long but it may contain a greater number of diamonds than Botswana’s annual production – just devastating!

    Here’s a taste: (and apologies in advance if these cause people to laugh uncontrollably, spit out coffee, choke on their cornflakes etc)

    ‘What if we presume that the tax narrative that the Tax Justice Network, I and others have put forward is right?’

    ‘What if, in that case, tolerance of the capitalism that has been really expires and the demand for real change becomes so compelling that it become necessary?’

    ‘Mark Carney has made clear thus (sic) week that existing capital markets are hopelessly unable to meet the demands of climate change because they are not supplied with the data to make appropriate decisions on the allocation if capital. I could have (and have) said exactly the same thing of all those issues, such as geo-political risk, where country-by-country data is required to hold global capital to account locally so that appropriate capital allocation decisions are to be made. To out it another way, I think accounting may well be an engine of the change to come in society’

    ‘And under the terms of that new licence people, whether employees or communities of interest, are going to have a greater say. This does not mean a return to old style trade unionism which was as embedded in protecting the particular rights of some vested interests as much as capital has ever been. It will instead be about negotiating those rights in a new space. Might this be called the commons as George Monbiot has suggested? Or is there a better term? I cannot be sure as yet, but I am convinced that this will happen.’

    ‘How will society change? This is a critical question and I can only guess at answers but I suspect some quite notable trends will emerge. Local will be more important. An emphasis on quality of life may succeed a focus on material accumulation. The lure of technology will recede: the era of vinyl is returning for a reason.’

    Surely it’s time for the men in White coats – I mean it is just delusion on a scale usually unachievable without recourse to psychotropic or other mind-altering substance…..

  10. Van_Patten – Yarp. And according to the ScotNats, Al Beebra is basically the Orange Order with a telly camera.

    The Beeb is, of course, biased. All media is biased. It’s an inescapable fact of human nature. The problem with BBC bias is that it represents a wanky metropolitan bubble that’s detatched from reality and hostile to the intetests of normal British people, yet we’re forced to pay for it.

    In the Beeb bubble Islam is a religion of peace, “diversity” is a moral imperative, feminism is self-evident wisdom, the EU is a force for good, “climate change” threatens us all, and the answer to every question in British politics is more regulation and taxation.

    It’s the same rot afflicting other state broadcasters in the Western world. Not sure what the answer is, but flamethrowers are worth a try. Flamethrowers are instruments of peace.

  11. This does not mean a return to old style trade unionism which was as embedded in protecting the particular rights of some vested interests ….

    He really has fallen out with his old paymasters, or if he hasn’t he will when they see this.

  12. The BBC attempts to be impartial, but fails. They were pro-remain, pro-immigration and engage in disgusting leftist crap in so many programmes. They had some twatty American poet on a literary programme the other night, who talked about poetry and then “post-truth” and talked about the racist white Americans who had voted Trump in. The same wacist white Americans who had voted for Obama’s “hopey” change and had now decided they fancied some “American” change.

    I especially find it offensive to hear evil leftard commies on various news and current affairs programmes. In order to “balance” this, they would need to be giving airtime to the likes of the BNP. But surprisingly, we dont get many people from the frothing right – but the BBC thinks it’s perfectly OK to have trots and others of a similar ilk on the radio.

  13. The Inimitable Steve,

    Complain. Complain constantly. If they’re writing responses, they’re spending money on something other than programme making, which makes their output shittier, which makes them less popular with the public. Especially good if you can find cases where someone has some implied bias on their late night official Twitter.

    I figure I’ve pretty much spent double my license fee on staff time this year, so I’ve more than done my bit.

    I might throw some FOI requests into the mix next year.

  14. “The BBC-wrecking Murdoch press was sinisterly quiet during the BBC charter negotiations, knowing that in the then culture secretary John Whittingdale, they had their man. He ripped £700m from the heart of the BBC by obliging it to take on the cost of free TV licences for over-75s by 2020.”

    Seriously, I was pissed that the BBC even got another 10 years. My household basically has my wife watching the BBC. My kids and I watch YouTube, Crunchyroll, Amazon Instant, Netflix. The other night I spent 5 minutes with some Saturday night comedy before flicking on YouTube and watching a bunch of videos made by people on shoestring budgets that were more entertaining.

  15. No doubt the BBC, itself, doesn’t think itself biased. It thinks it represents a consensus view of its public.
    Trouble is; there’s no such thing as a consensus view on anything. Everyone has their own, individual, views on everything. No-one is their own extremist. The best you can get are temporary coalitions who will broker a “consensus” on a subject, the individuals willing to concede on some points to gain advantage on others.
    Which is, of course, what the individuals within the BBC are doing when they craft a BBC “position” on a subject.
    To actually be unbiased, it would have to give equal weight to all points of view & let the audience choose which to favour.

  16. I was about to question this: “The BBC attempts to be impartial”, but then I thought on it a second.

    Maybe their view of the world is so blinkered, so ignorant, that they simply don’t know they are dreadfully biased.

    I don’t think so, I think they know they are spewing propaganda, but it is a possibility.

    Might explain why they don’t get that criminal records for watching TV in your own house without their permission is immoral.

    But I think the simpler answer is that they are immoral left-wing liars.

  17. @BiW

    I ditched the TV Tax years ago, legally.

    I miss out on a bit of sport, otherwise I get to watch what I want, when I want and in higher quality thanks to the likes of Netflix and the affordability of disks.

    The problem is the bastards won’t leave you alone. I suppose the upside is they are wasting money hounding someone who neither wants nor legally requires their permission.

  18. “The BBC-wrecking Murdoch press was sinisterly quiet during the BBC charter negotiations, knowing that in the then culture secretary John Whittingdale, they had their man. He ripped £700m from the heart of the BBC by obliging it to take on the cost of free TV licences for over-75s by 2020.”

    Yes, how dare those old people watch their own televisions in their own homes picking up EM signals that were beamed onto their property whether they wanted them or not.

    Now I’m off to bill the neighbours for smelling my cooking and listening to my building work without permission, the freeloading scum.

  19. I bet that Daily Mail reader hasn’t paid any money to the Guardian for reading the Mail’s Rightminds section, either.

    Spongers.

  20. BiW

    “I figure I’ve pretty much spent double my license fee on staff time this year”

    And I thought I was doing my bit just by not paying the fee – I am but an amateur! I rather like the idea of wasting their staff time – perhaps it’s one that needs spreading..:)

    Cynic,

    I informed them just the once (that I no longer required their serice), it was back when they switched off the analogue signal. I couldn’t see the point of paying them for a fuzzy grey picture, although it was possibly an improvement on quite a lot of their crap?

    So of course now I receive and file all Crapita’s ever so polite threats of the impending Armageddon. Perhaps one day, if I’m bored, it might be tempting to sue them for a shit load of harassment…

  21. ‘The problem with BBC bias is that it represents a wanky metropolitan bubble that’s detatched from reality and hostile to the intetests of normal British people, yet we’re forced to pay for it.’

    No you aren’t. I haven’t had a TV licence for over 7 years now, perfectly legally. Still watch exactly what TV I like, just not at the point its broadcast live to the nation, as if it was still 1975.

  22. The word is getting out that the TV Licence is very much optional.

    One thing that should happen is a renaming. It isn’t a TV licence. I have a TV device, and TV Licensing has told me in writing that the way I use it does not require a licence.

    If not rightly abolished as the vile, unfair, economically-illiterate piece of rent-seeking and bullying that it is, it should at the very least be called something like the “Live Broadcast and iPlayer Viewing Duty”.

  23. WRT to the “unique” way the BBC is funded, I’d recommend you all Google

    michael shakespeare tv licensing

    It’s quite something.

  24. Cynic,

    “And I thought I was doing my bit just by not paying the fee – I am but an amateur! I rather like the idea of wasting their staff time – perhaps it’s one that needs spreading..:)”

    I’d love to. I could honestly, personally, avoid everything the BBC produces. I only really like Bob Harris and Jonathon Meades. But my wife and kids like various stuff and so we have a license.

  25. It’s a fair bet that Polly hasn’t watched a minute on Fox in her entire lifetime. I bet she refuses even to watch fucking ITV.

  26. Simple test to understand BBC bias:

    How many times has Murphy been asked on Vs how many times has Tim been asked on.

    I’ll go even further, how many times do sensible lefties like Chris Dillow get invited on compared to twats like Murphy who tell them what they want to hear that their really is a magic money tree.

  27. @Ken

    “I especially find it offensive to hear evil leftard commies on various news and current affairs programmes. In order to “balance” this, they would need to be giving airtime to the likes of the BNP. But surprisingly, we dont get many people from the frothing right – but the BBC thinks it’s perfectly OK to have trots and others of a similar ilk on the radio.”

    Read the BNP manifesto Ken – they’re left wing. We should never cede this point. I challenge it whenever I hear it.

  28. Jim, Cynic

    I only have a telly for the rugby and cricket, which are Sky and BT Sport (and non England games during the 6N). How do I avoid the LF? If there’s a way pls tell me as there’s certainly a will!

  29. I only have a telly for the rugby and cricket, which are Sky and BT Sport (and non England games during the 6N). How do I avoid the LF? If there’s a way pls tell me as there’s certainly a will!

    You don’t need a licence if you never watch live (or recorded-from-live) broadcasts, and never use the BBC iplayer.

    You’re fine if you use it for on-demand catchup (except from iplayer), or internet streaming (except live streaming of broadcast programmes).

    So basically, it would depend on whether you’re happy to just watch the highlights of the rugby and cricket. If you watch them live then you are obliged to pay the BBC for the privilege.

  30. @Interested

    What BiW says. If you want to watch it live legally, you either have to cough up, watch it at a mate’s or go to the pub.

    Me, I’m so determined not to fund the commie bastards that my house doesn’t have an aerial and the BBC’s web stuff is blocked. I don’t trust them to not lie about me watching TV, so I’ve built up evidence to prove I don’t.

    And you know what? I really don’t miss watching live TV. Whenever I visit someone that has regular programming on, I realise just how little I’m missing. It’s utter shite: reality TV and soaps with ugly miserable people.

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