Amanduh and the electoral college

Thanks a bunch, Hamilton Electors! Rogue electors turn on Hillary Clinton, just to add insult to injury
Hillary Clinton lost a fluke election — but even that wasn’t enough for a handful of faithless electors

Every lefty in the country was shouting for the Electoral College to vote against their mandate. At which point some do and the lefties are unhappy.

26 comments on “Amanduh and the electoral college

  1. You can almost taste the salty tears from here.

    “Apparently, it’s not enough for some folks to see the first woman who had a real shot at the presidency lose her bid. They also needed to kick her while she’s down.”

    Hey, your pals made someone called Abdurrahman an elector. Shockingly, he doesn’t want a woman president. But that’s our fault, apparantly.

  2. It’s quite pathetic. Yes, she accumulated 2% more votes than Trump; but no, she did not win a majority of the votes. And her votes were piled up in a few states, which is exactly EXACTLY what the electoral college is designed to mitigate.

  3. It’s a smorgasbord of Schadenfreude. Every little morsel is an Epicurean delight. Surely this much gloating must be bad for one, but since it’s the season of overindulgence I am going to continue stuffing my face until the new year at least. And kicking Hillary Clinton is not merely enjoyable but morally just. She is a vile and pulsating haemorrhoid on the anal sphincter of American politics.

  4. The distilled presumption, the ingrained lies and flat out venom towards those who they disagree with that is salon.com’s specialty – usually means I don’t go there.

    This woman can splutter all she likes (which is plenty) but it’s headed into the realms of self satire – even for the usual SF loony-toon crew that type away over there… (yes she’s in NY I know)

    She can’t even see that herself and her ilk (particularly the CNN led MSM) probably did more to drive away HRC’s voters than any other factor in the whole business.

    There’s no tears there – just undiluted anger at having her entitlement challenged – and she needs a *big* truck to haul that baggage around.

    Writes for the Guardian ‘pon occasion too….

  5. It was *hiiiiiiiilarious*.

    She lost twice as many EC votes as Trump! (4 to his 2) and would have lost three more if those particular states hadn’t yanked the leashes of those three electors.

    This has got to be the most embarrassing defeat for a Presidential candidate in US history. Hell, only once before in the history of the US has an EC voted for as many different candidates as this one and no one (to my limited knowledge) has ever had as many EC electors reject them as Clinton has.

    This has truly been a historic election.

  6. “faithless electors” is just a lovely piece of othering, isn’t it?

    “There was good reason, at least at first” [to support the “Hamilton Electors” movement]
    This could be carved on the tomb of every screaming-lefty movement, ever.

  7. There was good reason, at least at first, to support the “Hamilton Electors” movement to convince members of the Electoral College to buck tradition — and various state laws — in order to vote their conscience

    Proggies should probably have made it clearer that “your conscience” means “Hillary Clinton”.

  8. “the Russians had interfered with our election ”

    They are still trying to imply the Russians tampered with the vote and hoping the ill-informed will think that. The reality is that a bunch of emails that shouldn’t have been written, and should have been kept very secure if they were to be written, were hacked and released in to the public domain for voters to make up their own minds.

    If I was a Dem I’d be livid with the DNC for that, and for picking Hillary in the first place, and demanding wholesale changes at the top to get some probity in to my party.

    And yet again with no irony they pull the women should stick together handle, forgetting they way they treated Sarah Palin.

    When we do the end of year review the prize for creating most Schadenfreude be split between Remainers and Clinton supporters. There’s probably a massive overlap anyway.

  9. Has Trump announced the new head of the CIA yet? Do they really think they will get away with it?

    And, of course, enjoy the dissonance of the Left embracing the CIA. It’s up there with Owen Jones standing shoulder to shoulder with Goldman Sachs and David Cameron against a working class Brexit revolt.

    Strange times indeed. Or maybe they are just completely fucking shameless and think we have the memories of goldfish.

  10. That’s a very brave thing they’ve done considering the crime family appears to have bought assassinations in bulk and may have a few tickets to use up by year’s end.

    Given that some guy earned one just serving a subpoena for dog’s sake…

  11. This election is sort of like 1960 Baseball World Series Championship between New York Yankees and Pittsburgh Pirates in which they went to the 7th game.

    Yankees outscore Pirates 55 to 27 and on all meaningful statistics except one, they lost by 4 games to 3. The 3 games Yankees win are by the score of 16-3, 10-0 and 12-0. The 4 games win by Pirates are 6-4, 3-2, 5-2 and 10-9.

    Think of state of New York and California. It matters not that Donald Trump got less than 35% of the popular votes there, the margin of Clinton voters doesn’t give her any more vote, just like the blowout victories Yankee scored against Pirates. In the end, Trump wins the only votes that matters.

  12. BigFire: it’s like how Labour get bigger and bigger majorities in safe Labour seats and then complain that that doesn’t result in them getting more than 1.0000 MPs in the seat.

  13. Bloke in North Dorset – “And yet again with no irony they pull the women should stick together handle, forgetting they way they treated Sarah Palin.”

    I look forward to Amanda writing endless articles about the need to support Le Pen. Because, you know, vagina!

  14. “Think of state of New York and California. It matters not that Donald Trump got less than 35% of the popular votes there, the margin of Clinton voters doesn’t give her any more vote, just like the blowout victories Yankee scored against Pirates. In the end, Trump wins the only votes that matters.”

    Quite. And if the game changed to popular vote wins, the campaign strategies would change too. Given that all of the popular vote lead is wiped out if California voted like a normal blue state, how many Trump voters just stayed home cos there was no pont and many of them didn’t have any republican to vote for on any of the down-ticket races?

    I’m sure the lefties would love the game to be basically changed to a get-out-the-vote effort on the two left coasts, Chicago, Detroit and a couple of other urban enclaves elsewhere, but that’s not the point of their federal system.

  15. “I look forward to Amanda writing endless articles about the need to support Le Pen. Because, you know, vagina!”

    Oh, but no, that’s different. Because reasons.

  16. Voter ID at the next election plus an electoral register.

    Ideally some sort of electronic voting tied to this register, making turn-up-at-several-stations fraud very difficult, but the Democrats have cleverly established this as being a Bad Thing in the eyes of the public with their absurd “Putin hacked the ballot” hysteria.

  17. “I look forward to Amanda writing endless articles about the need to support Le Pen. Because, you know, vagina!”

    Won’t happen. At best, there’ll be some shouting about no-true-woman blah blah blah and another catering pack of denial. At worst, ‘patriarchy’ will be blamed for making women become right wing in order to succeed, against their innate whatever, and that will be used to leverage more special pleading, quotas etc.

    This generation of the left will never consider the possibility that the mindset for success, for wealth-generation, opposes nice-but-dim principles like ‘equality of outcomes’.

  18. Rob said:
    “Voter ID at the next election plus an electoral register.”

    Yes, getting a robust electoral system in place has to be Trump’s number one priority if he’s going to get a second term.

    “Ideally some sort of electronic voting tied to this register, making turn-up-at-several-stations fraud very difficult”

    I didn’t realise that was possible; the Yanks are even more insane than I realised. But it doesn’t need electronic voting; what’s wrong with the British system where you’re only on the list for one polling station, and they cross you off when you vote?

  19. BiND:

    “And yet again with no irony they pull the women should stick together handle, forgetting they way they treated Sarah Palin.”

    It’s a great joy to an actual human to know that Sarah Palin will finally pass away in the comfort and love of her many children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren while Amanduh will be eaten by her cats.

  20. but the Democrats have cleverly established this as being a Bad Thing in the eyes of the public with their absurd “Putin hacked the ballot” hysteria.

    It does have to be said that the security of various of the US electronic voting terminals is appallingly poor*, with the best of them not rising to “really not fit for purpose”. Part of the problem is that running the Presidential elections is a state not a federal responsibility, so “we buy stuff made in our state” often trumps “we buy the stuff that works”. That the previous CEO of Diebold (the most commonly selected manufacturer) was such a significant fundraiser for the Republicans didn’t help their reputation (nor did the products and the integrity management processes being crap, it has to be said!) Even the security researchers in US academia tend much more to the left than the industry.

    That being said, the basic attack model involves physical access to the machines or being the manufacturer.” Putin hacked the election” is both hysterical and improbable.

    * There is a good reason why we have neither e-voting nor electronic voting in the UK. Friends and colleagues have been variously involved in the security assessment of formal trials and, despite the politicians being desperate to do anything** to raise turnout, the integrity problems are beyond currently practically deployable (on cost terms, there are some possible solutions).

    ** Except produce sufficient difference between the vermin herds*** in proposed, well thought out, relevant and well articulated policies. Like so people want to vote for them rather than against their opponents.

    *** Is that the right collective noun?

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