Spud questions we can answer

Which UK universities are you happy to see go bust because of a shortage of EU students?

City….

How precisely will we be better off when we have to pay tariffs on most things we import?
We import more than we export. How are we going to win from tariffs?

And there’s why. A professor of practice in international political economy at City University thinks that leaving the EU means that Britain must charge import tariffs.

Sigh.

39 comments on “Spud questions we can answer

  1. Which UK universities are you happy to see go bust because of a shortage of EU students?

    Most of em.

  2. Not an immediately obvious result.They can charge EU students more once UK is out indeed whatever we like until someone decides that this needs to negotiated away that is.

  3. Actually, looking at this from Sweden, I think that the English universities are pricing themselves out of the international market anyway.

    In Sweden, the state fully pays tuition fees. My son started uni this year, and was looking at where he should go. England was not an option as there are very few unis that the state considers value for money and therefore will not pay the tuition fees.

    Scotland would have been OK though.

  4. I thought that in Spudworld, taxes always make us better off, so, candidly, import tariffs must inherently make us better off. Arguing otherwise is just neoliberal sophistry.

  5. Approximately 7% of people in any age cohort have the cognitive capacity to make a decent fist of a degree course at honours level in an academically rigorous subject (which is a 120+ IQ, basically). Any supply of non-vocational tertiary education beyond that point is superfluous. Organisations should be free to offer it, but it should not attract a penny of public funding. There should be no fee caps whatever, and loans should attract the same terms and conditions as any other lending: you pay it back on the agreed schedule or you go bankrupt.

    The fetishisation of university education is how the Left cons people into providing the feedstock for successive generations of lumpenintelligentsia.

  6. “Approximately 7% of people in any age cohort have the cognitive capacity to make a decent fist of a degree course at honours level in an academically rigorous subject (which is a 120+ IQ, basically)”

    Yup. Tertiary education is an elite activity, unlike training and instruction.

  7. And what of those of us unable to make a decent fist of a degree course? Suppose we want an open hand instead?
    Of my classmates I cannot think of any who lasted to the 3rd year who didn’t get an honours degree.
    Don’t recall seeing any subjects that were not academically rigorous – perhaps you know of some?
    I only bothered looking in the prospectus of 3 universities though so maybe my sample size is too small.

  8. The questions are the single most hilarious post I have ever seen! Tim, perhaps you could follow up your response to Ha Joon Ching using this as a template – I’d pay to see that! Would also be a useful way of exposing how stupid Murphy really is….

  9. Question 1 ‘Have you seen a plan?’ To which there are several possible answers:

    Either something along the lines of 1/ No, I have not but with the doubts about the May government will be maginified around a million fold if the most idiotic commentator in cyberspace history is privy to it before Joe Public?

    2/ While the details of your plans may change depending on whether you take your medication each morning – one could either read the KCNA website or obtain a copy of Benito Mussolini’s ‘The doctrine of fascism’ and that should reveal most of the plan details….

  10. @Raffles, December 27, 2016 at 3:16 pm
    “Actually, looking at this from Sweden, In Sweden, the state fully pays tuition fees.”

    Are you sure about that?

    My [Swedish] wife graduated from Lund (Malmo campus) as a Dentist in 1996 with SEK270,000 student loan debt.

  11. @Bloke in Costa Rica, December 27, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    “Approximately 7% of people in any age cohort have the cognitive capacity to make a decent fist of a degree course at honours level in an academically rigorous subject (which is a 120+ IQ, basically). Any supply of non-vocational tertiary education beyond that point is superfluous

    The fetishisation of university education is how the Left cons people into providing the feedstock for successive generations of lumpenintelligentsia.”

    +1 on both points

    @Theophrastus, December 27, 2016 at 4:28 pm
    “Yup. Tertiary education is an elite activity, unlike training and instruction.”

    +1
    I’m in the IQ >120 group.

    On the job training, apprenticeships (which unions destroyed in UK), day release and/or the old Technical Colleges and Colleges of Further Education are the best for most. Not stupid degrees such as BSc (Hons) Horses

    Pcar MBA, BSc, DipM

  12. Martin: subjects that are not academically rigorous? Anything with the word “studies” in the title, for starters. I was roped in to teach basic computer graphics programming to a bunch of media studies undergraduates. It was the first exposure they’d had to something that wasn’t hand-waving gibberish. The experience was a shock for me and them. Frankly, most of ’em, if they’d fallen any further we’d have had to start watering them.

  13. “subjects that are not academically rigorous? Anything with the word “studies” in the title, for starters.”

    Yes, absolutely anything with ‘studies’ in the course title. And any vocational training dressed up as a degree. 90% of all Eng Lit degree courses. 90+% of all sociology degree courses, ‘soft’ psychology and politics courses….

  14. I see Spudster is now claiming that unilateral free trade is impossible under WTO rules, as we will be required to have tariffs.

  15. Totally off topic. I’ve just seen that Lester Haines has died at only 55. Used to love his article’s at El Reg.

  16. Jesus wept – he appears to think that if we don’t impose tariffs on imports we are “giving tax to others”

    The man’s stupidity is endless

  17. He seems to believe any missed opportunity to tax someone or something is prt of the tax gap so to him not imposing tariffs would be terrible

  18. Question 5/ What’s great about being out in your own?

    Simple riposte – I think you would be able to tell me given that even Corbynite Labour have rejected you as too extreme…..

  19. SE

    “There’s another sort?”

    Perhaps not. But some courses do seem quite rigorous in that they teach statistical analysis, study design and scientific methods, and then there are the theory-based courses that seem to produce left-leaning women primed to enter the HR ‘profession’. The latter were the target of my prejudice.

  20. There’s also clinical psychology, quite rigorous, although tends to be a specialism after 1st degree. At the end of the day some people do need to understand the mind without the trappings of lefty political bollocks

  21. @Pcar

    The tuition fees are paid, and a small allowance is given too. Student loans are also available for those (most) who need them.

  22. Tomsmith: psychology and economics as well

    Which is where to study the marginal propensity to rant and where the prof himself becomes the object studied.

  23. Bloke in Costa Rica.
    No, it didn’t used to be called military history. I can do a degree in military history and study different stuff.

  24. @Martin

    Out of genuine interest: from your experience, what is the difference between the two? Is it that War Studies is more focussed?

    I’d be interested to hear some examples of what you studied.

  25. Tomsmith,

    “Some quite interesting stuff at the interface of psychology and computing, psychology and economics as well”

    Well, yes. The problem is that there isn’t rigour in the subject. There’s some good work on psychology but a lot of it is absolute shite: fashionable, political or just fanciful. It’s not like say, physics where people generally write research papers that are pretty sound.

    The problem is really with any course where the output isn’t tested. If a university produces bad doctors, patients die. Bad engineers, bridges fall down. This applies right down to tech colleges with welders and hairdressers. No-one doing black studies gets found out. There’s no jobs or anything that depends on it.

  26. War Studies covers a much wider remit than military history which tends to focus more on battles and the military.
    Lets see – holocaust, barbarisation of warfare (atrocities for example), the media (such as what war correspondents report and its relationship to reality), international relations, terrorism, german early 20th century history, America 1890 – 1945, the American civil war, legal issues.
    I don’t recommend the holocaust, its a very depressing subject.

  27. “The problem is really with any course where the output isn’t tested. If a university produces bad doctors, patients die.”

    Psychology is a part of medicine too..

  28. Bloke in Wilts:

    “It’s not like say, physics where people generally write research papers that are pretty sound”

    To be honest I would disagree with this. My brother is a psychology lecturer and researcher. He switched to psychology as a specialism from his biology degree, then later did a PhD. I have read his papers and he has a good understanding of research methods, statistics, and so on. Easily as good as I do, and I did a chemistry degree at a proper university.

    He has moved beyond basic psychology and is currently involved in teaching at the interface between computing and psychology, has taught himself a few programming languages, and is generally a conscientious and motivated researcher with a good standard of personal intengrity.

    I also have a friend who is a clinical psychologist. She did a 3 year doctorate and appears to be very good and rigorous at what she does, and not particularly susceptible to what they write in the Guardian.

    I understand that there is a lot of soft psychology out there, but there is also plenty that is not, and I don’t think tarring all psychologists with the same brush is fair really. Just seems lazy. Pshychology can be science and it can be political dogma, just depends what type of “psychology” you are interested to learn.

  29. The media should cop some blame for lazy analysis. Occasionally they give air time to an astrologer, and for another view ( or a verbal fight ) they go to an astronomer. But really they should go to a psychologist for that is the subject on which astrology trespasses.

  30. Bloke in Wiltshire – “No-one doing black studies gets found out.”

    Oh, I think we all know. Black studies is for the football team. So they can play football without learning to read.

    Martin – “War Studies covers a much wider remit than military history which tends to focus more on battles and the military. Lets see – holocaust, barbarisation of warfare (atrocities for example), the media (such as what war correspondents report and its relationship to reality), international relations, terrorism, german early 20th century history, America 1890 – 1945, the American civil war, legal issues.”

    So Politically Correct garbage that pretends to be academic but it just another grievance mongering SJW piece of sh!t/

    Close it down. It is not an exception.

  31. No, academic study of source materials and peer reviewed books regarding the social, military, political and economic circumstances before, during and after a war.
    For example look at WW2 – from before Japan started invading places. Look at why, look at what happened, look at international response, look at Japanese response to international response and so on.
    Or look at the French invasion of Germany 1939 – and what led up to it, what the result was and so on.
    Using the same academic criteria and critical thinking that other historical events would have applied.
    Britain has been in a few wars, academic study of what happened is preferred to simply letting the media tell a story and have that accepted as truth. When it is a story.

    You have not been on the course so I do question then whether you are qualified to hold an opinion on it. Based on not doing the course you want to shut it down.
    Are you by any chance a politician? Sounds like something a politician would do.

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