Those vegans are not exactly testosterone heavy, are they?

Men who eat lots of foods containing soya may be harming their chances of becoming a father, research suggests.
Fertility experts found evidence that natural chemicals in soya – used to make vegetarian and vegan products such as tofu – could damage sperm.

Researchers in Spain believe the issue could lie with chemicals called phytoestrogens, which mimic female hormones and are found in soya.

16 comments on “Those vegans are not exactly testosterone heavy, are they?

  1. The effect is not direct though is it? Soya depresses testosterone production and thereby sperm production, but this effect on sperm is bound to be mitigated by other factors. Taiwanese bloke I know drinks soybean milk all the time, and his wife just gave birth to their third child recently.

  2. Reminds me of a quote from a bloke at London Zoo after a nutter had entered the lion enclosure, “Lions are not particularly aggressive. The most aggressive animal here is the zebra stallion, and he’s a vegetarian.”

  3. The next time you hear some sandal wearing bearded vegetarian banging on about why we haven’t the courage to ban all chemicals that have endocrine disrupting properties, however trivial. Ask why they aren’t calling for a ban on all soya products.

  4. There are a thousand million plus Chinese despite all the Soy Sauce so the theory can’t have that much credence.

  5. Bloke In Taiwan – “Taiwanese bloke I know drinks soybean milk all the time, and his wife just gave birth to their third child recently.”

    A third child. Saying “their” begs the question.

    Roué le Jour – “Reminds me of a quote from a bloke at London Zoo after a nutter had entered the lion enclosure, “Lions are not particularly aggressive. The most aggressive animal here is the zebra stallion, and he’s a vegetarian.””

    That reminds of me of the late and great Timothy Treadwell. Who made a career insisting that bears were totally harmless. That it was people who had the problem. You know where this is going right?

    A video camera was recovered at the site which proved to have been operating during the attack, but police said that the six-minute tape was blank; only the sound of their agonized cries as a brown bear mauled the couple to death was recorded. …. the camera recorded only six minutes of audio before running out of tape. This, however, was enough time to record the bear’s initial attack on Treadwell and his agonized screams, its retreat when Huguenard attacked it, its return to carry Treadwell off into the forest, and Huguenard’s screams of horror as she is left alone.

    I can’t comment on Treadwell’s tofu eating habits but I point you to the second to last sentence. Amie Huguenard was the last in a fairly long line of nubile young things who went camping with Treadwell in bear country. And she attacked a bear.

  6. @Ecks/BiT/SMFS

    Tofu and soy produce made by Chinese people is slightly different from the shit produced by westerners which is purported to be “tofu” or “soy”.

    Of course the stuff made on mainland China for the peasants is full of oestrogens and other antibiotic metabolites and heavy metal contents anyway, so you may well be right. Obviously Taiwan also has higher quality and hygiene standards than the mainland.

  7. There are a thousand million plus Chinese despite all the Soy Sauce so the theory can’t have that much credence.

    Not very good at growing beards though, are they?

  8. @Me E

    “There are a thousand million plus Chinese despite all the Soy Sauce so the theory can’t have that much credence.”

    Imagine how many there would be if they all ate chips.

  9. Maybe the arrow of causality is the other way round: it’s only feeble girly men who, if presented with the opportunity to eat a huge steak, would opt instead for insipid, rubbery fucking tofu.

  10. reminds me of my brother telling his wife …
    … “soy bean waste? if its good for menopausal woman how can it be good for me?”

  11. That reminds of me of the late and great Timothy Treadwell. Who made a career insisting that bears were totally harmless. That it was people who had the problem.

    Treadwell certainly had some problems. One can’t walk away from Grizzly Man without coming to the conclusion that on some level, Treadwell was a fool and a nutter. Herzog makes it clear, without saying as much, that he thought so.

  12. Researchers in Spain believe the issue could lie with chemicals called phytoestrogens, which mimic female hormones and are found in soya.

    Ah, its the old EDC crap again. 50 years and there’s been no replicable evidence of this crap in soya or any other product where you’re exposed to trace amounts – and not even vegans eat enough of this stuff to get above trace amounts.

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