Apparently we must wait until they’re adult to hit Frenchies now

The French are sparing the rod.

Child abuse was already illegal in France, but a new bill bans all corporal punishment.

The “Equality and Citizenship” bill passed on Dec. 22, forbidding cruel, degrading, and/or humiliating treatment of children by their parents.

Do all recall this next time we do a revanche, won’t you?

Well done, v’ry good that man.

23 comments on “Apparently we must wait until they’re adult to hit Frenchies now

  1. Corporal punishment of male school children does little or no harm. It may even be necessary to help instill virtuous habits. I was beaten for not learning my Latin, for swearing, etc. I am unharmed by it. I beat my own children when they transgressed, and they are none the worse for it. Now, of course, I’d be a child abuser…

  2. Bloody stupid!
    As I remember from my childhood, corporal punishment is a fairly effective deterrent – and I use the word “fairly” with reason: on occasion I was not deterred but considered the subsequent corporal punishment fair. None of the alternatives were anywhere like as efficient and due to the time-lag they all involved were more resented.

  3. @ DtP
    Gascony is not full of malodorous frogs (or it wasn’t in Eleanor’s and Richard’s time) but of Basques. I wouldn’t want Calais back but the restoration of Aquitaine to the successors of Eleanor of Aquitaine’s children, so that we have continued access to all the claret being produced (you may not be aware that Claret, Sherry and Port were each developed solely for the purpose of supplying Englishmen) is certainly desirable.

  4. My dad hit me once. I deserved it. I never forgot it and it did me no harm.

    It seems society cannot tell the difference between child abuse and decent parenting.

  5. Sometimes a quick clip round the ear is the only way of stopping a child from engaging in something dangerous. You can tell them not to do things until you are blue in the face but a bit of operant conditioning via a smack works wonders.

  6. @Theo
    The Brits took Aquitaine back a while ago. And if you’ve spent any time in Calais, you’ll know it’s been invaded & is being sacked far more comprehensively than the English ever managed.

  7. @John77 – quite right about the wine and of course Aquitaine produced (and produces) wines other than claret (meaning red wines of Bordeaux). Cahors, Bergerac and to a lesser degree Pécharmant were significant wine growing areas too – as was the Agenais before the wrethched prune industry arrived. The top red stuff came from Poitou to the North which belonged to the Plantagenet kings as well (off and on). It seems a bit thin for today’s tastes though it’s quite refreshing chilled.

  8. Theophrastus – “Corporal punishment of male school children does little or no harm. It may even be necessary to help instill virtuous habits. I was beaten for not learning my Latin, for swearing, etc. I am unharmed by it.”

    The only problem with this is you are proposing a counter-factual. Are you unharmed by this? Perhaps if you had not been beaten you would have been more of a success in life? Perhaps you would have joined the Brit Pop movement, developed a drug habit, made millions, and even now would have been driving Tim N insane with jealous rage by sharing a hot tub with Ms Sharapova and three of her closest friends?

    However my experience of children who are never hit is that they are generally vile little creatures who grow up to be fairly normal people. While on the other hand children that are hit a lot and for no ready apparent reason also grow up to be fairly normal people. From which I conclude childhood influence is complex and you may as well beat the little monsters – even if it is for your own satisfaction.

  9. They have a similar law here in New Zealand; we aren’t allowed to smack our kids in order to protect kids from family violence.

    Of course the only effect that it really has is to criminalise good parents who feel that a quick smack is the most appropriate punishment for whatever transgression little Johnny has made; whilst doing absolutely nothing to the incidence of family violence that are, unfortunately, prevalent in large parts of our society.

  10. I suspect it’s socially unacceptable in this country to smack your children these days, though it was more normal when I was growing up.

  11. I believe that corporal punishment is one tool in a parent’s armoury. The fewer other tools parents have, the more they are likely to have recourse to it.

    It probably is possible (though more difficult) to do without, but the problem is: if you remove this tool without adding new ones, things are not going to get better: for the parents, the children, or society.

  12. Part and parcel of progs/socialists fight against the family.

    I would not crow too much as the trend is alive and well in this country too.

  13. Children know when they are guilty of wrongdoing, and up to a point, corporal punishment up to a certain level is accepted as deserved. The problem arises when the violence is excessive, doled out on a whim, unjust or undeserved, or sexual in nature.

    A Headteacher could punish a miscreant by caning those around him, thus ensuring that he would be beaten to a pulp by his former mates for ‘snitching’.

  14. …you may not be aware that Claret, Sherry and Port were each developed solely for the purpose of supplying Englishmen…

    Which probably explains why nobody in the States drinks claret, sherry and port (now that it is available to all).

    If they are made it for Englishmen, I assume you take a decent wine and then boil the shit out of it… Which seems to be what the English do with everything else that could be considered edible.

  15. @ DtP
    Well, of course not – you can buy cheap imitation claret from California, just as you buy cheap imitation champagne from there.
    I boil garden peas, green beans, broad beans and sometimes carrots (but not if I have time to treat them better): don’t you find anything else edible?

  16. @john77

    Isn’t California one of the few places in the world (other than Champagne) which can make Champagne? Something to do with America not signing the Treaty of Versailles or something.

    As it is all wine from Champagne is Californian anyway; due to the French vines dying out and the Frogs having to import American ones.

  17. @So Much For Subtlety, January 5, 2017 at 12:50 am
    “However my experience of children who are never hit is that they are generally vile little creatures who grow up to be fairly normal people. While on the other hand children that are hit a lot and for no ready apparent reason also grow up to be fairly normal people. From which I conclude childhood influence is complex and you may as well beat the little monsters – even if it is for your own satisfaction.”

    I like that.

    imho corporal punishment is OK. While we’re on this: bring back stocks.

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