Rhiannon…..

Look at these men. Look at them. Gathered around the most powerful man in the world – a man who has openly bragged of sexual assault, who refers to a vulva as a woman’s “wherever” – as he signs away the reproductive rights of women in developing countries. In reimposing the global gag rule, Donald Trump is removing US funding to any overseas organisation that offers abortions, even if the organisation provides those specific services with their own funds. It means that doctors, midwives, nurses and volunteers cannot so much as mention the word “abortion” to their patients and service users without risking the loss of the US funding they receive for services including the supply of contraceptives.

If there is a woman present in this room, as this executive order is being signed along with two others, she is not included in the shot. This photograph is what patriarchy looks like – a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded. Nothing quite says powerlessness like the removal of your right to bodily autonomy, at the behest of a group of people who will never – can never – know what that feels like.

No one has changed anything at all about womens’ bodily autonomy. The only thing that has changed, and that in a minor manner, is whether the taxpayer gets dinged for you to exercise it or you’ve got to find some other source of funds to do so. Abortion, contraception, D&C, rug munching, bolts and piercings in unlikely (or perhaps today, likely) places and on and on and on are just as legal today as they were yesterday.

And here’s a general point about civil liberties R. Lucy. We are indeed supposed to be free to get on with life as we wish to get on with life. And with that comes the responsibility to both pay for that life ourselves and to take the consequences of how we live. Autonomy does not, whatever you think it does, mean that you’ve the right to what you want and also that someone else pay for it. That’s actually called dependency.

51 comments on “Rhiannon…..

  1. “…a man who…who refers to a vulva as a woman’s “wherever”…”

    But refrains from wearing a felt representation of one on his head in public. So, there’s that.

  2. Daddy didn’t buy someone her pony. I still she is still twaumatised!

    Nothing says a woman is empowered and independent than she still wants a man to pay for her pony.

  3. Has she heard of charity? You know voluntary contributions to causes you believe in eg abortion provision? Why should money be coerced from every taxpayer to fund everything?

  4. Sargon of Akkad had a picture on his latest This Week in Stupid YouTube video of one of the placards carried by one of the women marchers that read:

    “Make Then Pay For Razors
    If We Pay For Tampons”

    With his comment being do Feminists think men get governement funded razors?

  5. Let’s take it as agreed that abortion is ok, and that poor women in poor countries having access to it is a good thing.

    I realise that these things are absolutely not agreed. They are not agreed amongst the US taxpayers, and they are not agreed amongst the locals of this parish. But humour me.

    My question therefore becomes “does preventing organisations who receive money from the US government doing things that support access to abortion mean that, in practice if not principle, that such access is reduced sufficiently that, actually, those women affected will not have that access?”

    We know that the decisions made on what the NHS does (or doesn’t do) impacts people even if they are theoretically able to go elsewhere. Because the NHS forces everyone to pay for it, and crowds out alternatives – either because they are not needed at all, or cannot compete. So what’s happening in these poor countries? How much has US aid distorted the provision of healthcare, how much has healthcare in some countries come to rely on organisations that receive aid?

    We can argue that the aid just shouldn’t exist at all.. but it does, and western do-gooders can impose themselves and, by their actions, subdue local and/or independent alternatives.

    If the UK government did this, would it mean that any company who gets any NHS/government money would be unable to do anything linked to abortion? Would that be much different to a de-facto ban for a lot of women.. at least in the short and medium term until the market could adjust.

    I know that abortion is a contentious issue. As is overseas aid. But as this measure, apparently, isn’t designed to actually reduce the amount of either of those things.. it shows itself as nothing but a sop to the religious lobby. Even if this particular move doesn’t do something you don’t like, and even if it’s got all the right people furiously hate-tweeting, is it really a net win for liberty if POTUS is rubber stamping the stuff that those people are handing him?

  6. The Thought Gang – “it shows itself as nothing but a sop to the religious lobby.”

    The majority of Americans do like abortion. The Courts have forced them to pay for it. The Democrats also want to force them to pay for a bunch of them in Africa as well. That is some sop. There is no moral case here to force people to pay for something they feel is morally wrong. If you support abortion, by all means, give to some charity or the other and kill all the African babies you like. But you should not force other people to do it.

    “is it really a net win for liberty if POTUS is rubber stamping the stuff that those people are handing him?”

    Who says he is rubber stamping anything? And yes, of course it is a net win for human rights and liberty. For human rights because fewer babies will be killed. For liberty because American tax payers will not be coerced to help in the killing of dark skinned babies.

  7. Hang on. Wouldn’t subsidising a massacre of the innocents in Africa be racist? But doing it a few months earlier isn’t?

  8. What NeilsR said.

    Once again, we are seeing the usual suspects furiously squalling when their opponents use their own tactics against them.

  9. TTG

    “Would that be much different to a de-facto ban for a lot of women.. at least in the short and medium term until the market could adjust.”

    Quite different. Because the agencies involved will promptly hive off their abortion-providing services and arrange transitional funding either from the original agency or some other source.

    I fail to see why US taxpayers should be paying for abortions for non-US citizens. Let the charities take on the cost.

  10. re the bit on razors and tampons – that originated as razors not being subject to VAT but tampons are, a wonderfully confected argument that the Today programme gave great prominence to (except for the bit that acknowledged it was an EU decision). I also recall someone on this blog doing the calculation and it working out to be basically a matter of pennies. Also re the bit about Trump admitting sexual assault, now turning into a post truth fact. He said that ‘they LET you grab them by the pussy”. That is crude, but if they let you, how is it assault? Finally on the abortion thing, I think he said that he will devolve this to the state level, in which case freedom of choice can be a drive across state lines. Not ideal, but pragmatic since the two sides are so entrenched that a federal stance is not practicable.

  11. TTG: …that such access is reduced sufficiently that, actually, those women affected will not have that access?”

    I adore convoluted questions but this is so overdone that it probably contains a lethal dose of acrylamide.

  12. The US is absolutely haemorrhaging cash. The CEO has an absolute duty to cut back on things the US doesn’t have to be doing and pare back on much more that it does.

    Result is more squealing than a pig farm, but the alternative is economic ruin.
    I’m looking forward to the German squealing when they have to pay their way for defence. America may have been happy to pay over the odds to avoid having to send troops to Europe again, but now they’re nearly bust.

  13. Mark T – “…a wonderfully confected argument…”

    Out and out false too, some (those who can read tax legislation) would say.

    I like your way with words 🙂

  14. Can’t Rhiannon see that using the feminist angle just doesn’t persuade enough people to get them to support her ambition for abortion. The patriachy thing is getting in the way of making arguments that will persuade men and women that abortions should be funded by them. Rhiannon grabs onto a photo and strangles it into propaganda worthy of certain godwin’s fulfilling historical figures, as if that persuades anyone to change their view. It just doesn’t. Nor does the insistence that politicians, in order to avoid her “white-hot rage” ought recuse themselves from their jobs because of their gender. It is rather worrying really.

  15. This shit needs a through kicking:

    “Look at these men. Look at them. Gathered around the most powerful man in the world – a man who has openly bragged of sexual assault,”

    Lies to begin with then.

    ” who refers to a vulva as a woman’s “wherever” ”

    Yeah–cunt sounds much nicer. Esp since she is one as well as having one.

    “– as he signs away the reproductive rights of women in developing countries.”

    And how exactly is he stopping women from reproducing in the third world? As if that was a problem when Marxian eco-freak scum have spent decades trying to stop “The Population Explosion”.

    ” In reimposing the global gag rule, Donald Trump is removing US funding to any overseas organisation that offers abortions, even if the organisation provides those specific services with their own funds.”

    If they have their own money what do they need American Taxpayers dosh for then?

    ” It means that doctors, midwives, nurses and volunteers cannot so much as mention the word “abortion” to their patients and service users without risking the loss of the US funding they receive for services including the supply of contraceptives.”

    So they can still get contraceptives on the US tax dollar –if they don’t spread the femmi-poison that ending a human life–esp if its a male one–is a good option. Some abortions my be needed medically, after rape etc. But the main cause of abortions are two turds whose urge to stick it in and wiggle it about was greater than their concern for the consequences. Hey –when the consequences get thrown in an incinerator who cares right?

    “If there is a woman present in this room, as this executive order is being signed along with two others, she is not included in the shot.”

    Oh no! A photo without a woman in it. Have such wicked bigots ever been seen before. Daguerre must be rolling in his grave that such horrors have been perpetrated with his invention.

    ” This photograph is what patriarchy looks like – a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded.”

    So any photographed gathering without a vagina in there somewhere is “evidence” of a political system is it? Because ALL women support killing unborn kids and if there had been a woman in the picture she would literally have to have been bound and gagged to stop her having an SJW meltdown right? That’s why they call it the gag rule I guess.

    ” Nothing quite says powerlessness like the removal of your right to bodily autonomy,”

    Well first off Nonuts–no one is stopping 3rd world women child killing. Even tho’ many of them would spit in your eye at the suggestion ( which is why tax dollars are needed to fund a leftoid “campaign” anyway). The order just says that if any leftist pukes try to suggest to 3rd world women that kid-killing is a good idea then the US tax dollar leaves the scene. They –or their local kleptomaniac 3rd world tyranny– can pay for it themselves. Money tight?–then perhaps fewer elite flights to Harrods might stretch the national budget a bit.

    “at the behest of a group of people who will never – can never – know what that feels like.”

    And you neither know or care about the problems of men–so what.

    “There’s a reason women are using the word patriarchy again,”

    Yeah–lying leftist scum like you are noising it abroad in the tame MSM . And mostly the women saying it are either Marxian hate-peddlers or ther fat, hennaed dements who are their victims.

    ” that it featured on so many signs during the Women’s Marches, and it is not, as ridiculous outrage automaton Piers Morgan asserts, because they are rabid feminists intent on emasculating men.”

    Much as I hate to agree with slime like Morgan–stopped clock and all that.

    ” Because – and I hate to break this to Piers – if you are emasculated by the notion of a woman making her own reproductive choices, then you were never much of a man to begin with.”

    So superior isn’t she. You don’t like the fact that some women claim the right to kill unborn children–including the fact that she can kill a child that is as much your as hers without even having to consult you–you aren’t much of a man. I’m sure we’ll all just die of shame because an assortment of Marxist bitches don’t think much of the fact we have some regard for life where they don’t. Why should they? After all they have got away with murdering 150 million human beings and still try to posture as holding the “moral” high ground. Why should they give a shit about a few unborn kids.

    “What do any of these men know of women? I doubt the men in that room have ever so much as held a tampon. I doubt they’ve made their wives or girlfriends a hot water bottle, or changed her bloody sheets, or volunteered to go down to the drugstore to buy her maxi pads when she’s doubled up in pain and cursing her ovaries.”

    You need men like a fish needs a bicycle lady–so fry your own fish. Shall we help you wipe your backside next?

    Also “doubled up and cursing her ovaries” as if her period was equivalent to a punch in the gut from Rocky Marciano? And bloody sheets:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmcrreUVBeo

    “If you left an IUD on the president’s desk, he’d probably assume it was a tiny little pen made especially for him. He’d pick it up and attempt to use it to sign his name, no doubt at the bottom of some other piece of legislation that will profoundly and irreversibly affect women’s lives.”

    That’s just fucking silly. He’d obviously–as any decent man would–use to clean out under his fingernails.

    “The smirks on some of their faces may say it all.”

    There is a lot more to smirk about than some bullshit about stopping 3rd world kid-killer femmi-propaganda.

    ” Call me paranoid if you like, but the fragility of the president’s ego does not exclude the possibility that he is enjoying an act of petty revenge against an entire gender, ”

    Trump seems to like–enough to spend serious money on–women who are decent and not hate filled apostles of the socialist death-cult. Of course there is nothing of your ego in your diatribe.

    “millions of whom took to the streets over the weekend because the very fact of this man’s unmatched global power says more about women’s continued oppression than a feminist treatise ever could.”

    Barnicle Bill above illustrates the general level of intellect shown by the marching millions of femmi-freaks. A tiny total of the world’s womenfolk. Although possibly about half if you measure by total weight rather than numbers.

    ” Look who’s in charge now, this picture says.”

    Well he is in charge isn’t he–because people voted him in.

    And, of course, there would have been no gloating pictures of the Kill-Cow signing gun control orders if she had won–would there?

    “stupidity of the blinkered, religiously motivated agenda on display here is that no matter what legislation these men implement, they will never succeed in banning abortion,”

    The order is not intended to ban abortion nor could the USA impose such a condition on the world. It is to stop US taxpayers money being spent on femmi-propaganda that suggest kid-killing is just another option in contraception.

    ” per se, only safe, legal abortion.”

    And how will it stop such?

    “Marie Stopes estimates that, as a result of the reimposition of the global gag order, the loss of their services alone could result in 6.5m unintended pregnancies during Trump’s first term, 2.1m unsafe abortions, and 21,700 maternal deaths. In passing this law, these patriarchs have fathered millions of unwanted children, helping to create lives that could very well turn out to be painful and potentially motherless.”

    So the kids are being killed out of concern for their well-being? Who said socialism was evil.

    “The rage I feel towards these men is white-hot. I want to force them to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, so they can understand.”

    I imagine the lesson they would draw is that unprotected shagging around because you cant exercise minimal self control is a bad idea.

    ” But they never will.”

    That reality is a bastard eh? He must be a man.

    ” As my colleague Martin Belam has said, as long as you live you will never see a photograph of seven women signing legislation that defines and controls what men can do with their reproductive organs. It is unimaginable.”

    Are you fucking joking you lying bitch?

    Old–and even senile –men are in jail because of claims about what they allegedly did with their genitals a lifetime ago. Becauseof laws passed by women and their mangina buddies that enable 50 year old , entirely uncorroborated, tall tales from females to be accepted as Gospel while “innocent until proven guilty” is abolished.

    “The global gag rule has long been used as a political football. It was introduced by Ronald Reagan in 1984, revoked by Bill Clinton, reinstituted by George W Bush, then revoked by Barack Obama.”

    Blah. Blah.

    ” According to the Guttmacher Institute, reporting on the findings of a research initiative by NGOs,”

    Must be true then

    ” when George W Bush reimposed the global gag rule, the US agency for international development was forced to cut off shipments of contraceptives to 16 countries in sub-Saharan Africa, Asia and the Middle East”

    So those places chose not to abide by the rules the Yanks put down for how tax dollars are used.

    ” At the time, one in four women in Lesotho were infected with HIV”
    Whose fault is that? SSA males who don’t like condoms and don’t care who gets infected/dies. Take it up with them. And if a child is to be born with AIDS then that would be a medical reason for an abortion.Presuming an SSA male who doesn’t care about contraception/AIDS isn’t going to hang about to play Daddy ( another good reason to let none of them come to the West) that would leave an awful choice for the mother. The abortion should be paid for by her or her govt.

    ” The contraceptive shipments to Lesotho Planned Parenthood – the only available conduit for condoms in the country – ended as a result of Bush’s actions”

    As a result of Lesotho’s refusal to abide by the US’s conditions. Their free money–their choice.

    ” He created more unwanted pregnancies, and more babies with HIV. Trump’s act is likely to do the same.”

    Note how the actions of the people most involved–the actual participants in bringing the child on–are discounted and the whole mess is laid at the West’s door.

    “After a weekend of euphoric, inspiring feminist solidarity, this is a heavy blow for women,”

    If you can survive gut-punch periods doubtless you will make it through.

    ” and I have no doubt the men who marched alongside us will feel the same”

    Even you have nothing but contempt for manginas –so don’t come it.

    ” But we will not give up the fight. We can help to plug the funding gap with donations, and UK readers can take part in the 10 actions being suggested by the Women’s March on London over the coming days – the first of which involves writing to Theresa May to ask her to reaffirm the UK’s commitment to human rights when she meets Trump. ”

    Dress up doesn’t give a shit about real human rights–the bullshit Bills she has already pushed thro’ show that. She will probably agitate for your Marxian femmi-poison because she is BluLabour scum.

    “Remember that hope is not lost, that the events of this year will help to politicise a whole generation of future activists who believe in the human rights of women and girls.”

    Far too many morons have already been politicised. And their antics suggest the more such recruits you get for your cultural Marxist crew the better.

    ” To quote The Handmaid’s Tale: “Nolite te bastardes carborundorum. Don’t let the bastards grind you down.” They will not win.”

    Yes we will–and socialist scum like you will lose. Or there will be no future anyway.

  16. I’m only surprised that he didn’t allow contraceptive and abortion advice for muslims but not for christians.

  17. Mark T. It may have been me who did that calculation. The razor thing is also a total lie that is repeated every time the tampon argument is raised. Razor are subject to vat at the full rate, tampons at the lower rate. This is pointed out many times BTL on such articles on CiF but it keeps being repeated, proving that they do not care about the truth, only the narrative.

  18. As I recall this is a party issue. Republican presidents restrict the funding, democratic presidents allow the funding. Swings between presidencies, and was not unexpected.

  19. So, I’ve learned today from FB and Twatter memes that the only form of family-planning available to poor wimminz worldwide is US federally-funded abortions.

    And we want to talk about people being factually-challenged?

  20. Oh, and the stats on abortion in the US are shocking – something like over 300k per year by Planned Parenthood alone.

    In a population of about 325 million.

    So that’s an abortion rate just from PP corresponding to about 1 promille of the entire population…

    And this is even more WTF: https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/

    in 2013, there were 200 abortions per 1000 live births. That’s about 16.5% of all pregnancies ending in abortion.

    Are people using it as an alternative to contraception, or what?

  21. England and Wales, which have to have one of the most liberal abortion policies in Europe is even worse and had, in 2015:

    697,852 live births
    185,824 abortions

    F*ck me. Almost 1/4 of pregnancies end with an abortion.

  22. Almost 1/4 of pregnancies end with a medical abortion.

    Add in spontaneous abortions (I have very limited anecdatal knowledge of their frequency) and you are much higher.

    It’s an utterly appalling statistic. And I’m fairly liberal on this topic (and, as an example, don’t consider the ‘morning after’ pill to be abortion.)

  23. “I fail to see why US taxpayers should be paying for abortions for non-US citizens. Let the charities take on the cost.”

    But if the aid is going to charities.. to deliver [whatever] on the behalf of the US Government (and any other government contributing to those charities).. then it looks like they can’t. Even if they don’t use the US money for the abortions.

    I think governments give too much money to charities, but at least if it’s going to charities to do things in poor countries (as oppose to write press released and go to dinner with civil servants in rich countries) then, at least, they might do some good. If they think abortion counselling etc is good (and you seem to acknowledge that it’s ok for a charity to make that choice) then they now have to choose between providing that good, or being in with a chance of US money.

    I’ll be honest.. I don’t know enough about how the US aid budget is spent, and who with, and what chances this restriction will force, to be able to say whether I’m inventing problems that won’t ever exist.

    I’m just not sure it’s as simple as saying that this doesn’t affect anyone’s ‘rights’ when, with all respect to our host, I’m not convinced anyone here really knows how it will play out on the ground.

    (For an analogy, when people call for the Nordic model for prostitution laws, we don’t respond by saying that sex workers have nothing to complain about because they remain perfectly free to do what they were doing. Because we’re clever and we know that the effect is quite different. If the effect wasn’t different then the proponents of it wouldn’t be proponents of it. Maybe the same applies here.)

    @ TMB

    Yeah. Sorry about that.

  24. Ljh said: “Has she heard of charity? ”

    I’m guessing that a lot of privately funded US charities operating in poor countries are church groups who likely won’t be providing the family planning services campaigners want. And rather than fund it themselves the campaigners want everyone else to have to pay for it.

    The Thought Gang said:

    My question therefore becomes “does preventing organisations who receive money from the US government doing things that support access to abortion mean that, in practice if not principle, that such access is reduced sufficiently that, actually, those women affected will not have that access?”

    There is evidence to suggest abortions go up. As a result of more unintended pregnancies but still, campaigners have said abortions are good, so that’s good!

    And what could be wrong with encouraging foreign governments to take responsibility for their own country’s needs and foreign people to take responsibility for their own choices?

    If the anti-gag order is a sop to the religious lobby then doing away with it is a sop to godless fascists who would rather crowd out private generosity and kindness than fund their own organisations.

  25. It’s only going to get worse unfortunately: I was telling my 11yr old that in general men and women behave differently and his reply was that I was being sexist.

    Or how my rugby team of 15yrs old is quick to say wacist.

    It is quite amazing how the meaning of a right has been turned upside down. What a generation of unthinking idiots we have produced.

  26. It now seems obvious that the purge must now extend much wider than the Unis. The schools and ALL state institutions must be purged if they cannot be instantly abolished.

  27. So razors attract full VAT? That means that poor girls will have to have hairy legs, underarms, ‘wherevers’ and quite probably top lips. Shit! (and hairy arseholes too!)

  28. ‘millions of whom took to the streets over the weekend’

    Lying witch . . . there were BILLIONS.

    Day one, Journalism 101: if you are going to make up a number, make up a BIG one.

  29. Re overseas charities:

    US funded Charity A can no longer spend its money on abortions so now spends it Other Causes.

    Non-US funded Charity B sees that Charity A is now spending money on Other Causes and now doesn’t need to so it can spend the saved money on abortions.

    OK, it will take time to resolve and I’ll bet there’s some collusion between charities to speed it up, so it really won’t be the end of the world.

    In the US something similar will happen as well.

  30. Razors are usually quite cheap but they only take specially designed razor blades. Specially designed razor blades are eye watering expensive by comparison, with a healthy margin.

    I bought some cheap blades off the web, big mistake as I get about a 1/4 of the shaves and they’re uncomfortable.

  31. “F*ck me. Almost 1/4 of pregnancies end with an abortion.”

    The ethnic breakdown is probably quite alarming, too.

  32. The ethnic breakdown is probably quite alarming, too.

    Didn’t the original (Progressive) proponents of abortion on demand in the 1960s explicitly do so because blacks were more likely to use it, and said so?

  33. JuliaM – But refrains from wearing a felt representation of one on his head in public.

    He doesn’t feel them, he only grabs them.

    I’ll get me coat.

  34. Nothing says a woman is empowered and independent than she still wants a man to pay for her pony.

    Ain’t that the truth. And it doesn’t help that she looks like a fucking kewpie doll while she’s saying it.

    You know, in the 30-odd years between marriage and menopause, Muffy and I managed navigate sexual intercourse without having to resort to abortion. And we had sex often. Sometimes up to 5 or 6 times a year. So when I see some little 20-something bopper obsessing over abortion, I tend to jump to the conclusion that I’m looking at a complete fuck-up who is so unsure of her life skills that she can’t even bump ugly in a manner that avoids unwanted consequences. Maybe it isn’t fair to do so, but then again, maybe it is…

  35. Didn’t the original (Progressive) proponents of abortion on demand in the 1960s explicitly do so because blacks were more likely to use it, and said so?

    Earlier than that. Margaret Sanger, noted birth control activist and founder of Planned Parenthood. Also a proponent of eugenics, forced sterilization, and elimination of the “unfit.” Purely by coincidence, a lot of the people she identified as unfit happened to be of darker complexion. Strange, that.

  36. So when I see some little 20-something bopper obsessing over abortion, I tend to jump to the conclusion that I’m looking at a complete fuck-up who is so unsure of her life skills that she can’t even bump ugly in a manner that avoids unwanted consequences.

    That, and the fact that they are often unable to hold down a steady relationship and/or get somebody to shag them who isn’t either a complete shitlord who wipes his dick on the curtains and leaves or a complete loser. Women who are dating normal men who are sticking around aren’t terrified by the prospect of getting pregnant: I know a French girl who accidentally got pregnant by her BF and they were both quite happy about it. Their daughter is almost 7 now.

  37. Magnusw: great minds and all that, I thought it was me that pointed out that the difference between a non-vat/VAT tampon is the difference between 2.976p and 3.125p per tampon.

  38. @ Gareth
    Most church-related charities do things like feeding the hungry, healing the sick and housing the homeless. Most of them do this without any taxpayer subsidies (in a number of cases they got their first and last government grants from “matching funding” when DfID couldn’t spend 0.7% of GDP before the 2015/6 year-end). The cost of one abortion could cure – for example – 100 people of leprosy (because “evil Big Pharma” provides the drugs free to the Leprosy Mission).
    If Rhiannon wants to give her money to finance abortions, that is her privilege – if she wants to use *mine* then she can get lost, I can find better uses for it.

  39. “Didn’t the original (Progressive) proponents of abortion on demand in the 1960s explicitly do so because blacks were more likely to use it, and said so?”

    Apparently, yes. I wonder if now abortion is not boosting the ethnic birthrate relative to the white British birthrate. The Religion of Peace takes a dim view of abortion, though decapitation is fine.

  40. Anymore, the use of the term ‘patriarchy’ by any female I come in contact with automatically reroutes them from ‘female’ to ‘bimbo’ in my book. Women blaming ‘The Patriarchy’ is about on the same level of those guys who claim there are alien spaceships hidden away at Area 51.

  41. @ Dennis the Peasant
    That reveals yet another difference between American English and english English English – in England a “Bimbo” is utterly different to a feminist: someone who, usually physically, embraces the dominant males.

  42. “Patriarchy” assumes the position in the feminist lexicon that “Zionist” does for the anti-Semitic Left.

  43. @jgh, perhaps it was, though I know I calculated it once, probably during a debate at CiF, though the value I got was 3.125p per MONTH. A pack of 32 can be had for £1. An average of 20 used per month = 62.5p * 5%= 3.125p

    I actually agree with the campaigners that symbolically it would be a nice thing to remove VAT from them, and won’t it be nice that we will be able to do just that very soon?

    It’s just a shame they have to resort to lying to make their point, because they would get as much or more support if they didn’t make it a divisive gender issue.

  44. That’s an interesting coincidence. 3.125p per tampon equals the same 3.125p tax per month’s typical usage.

    As I was shaving this morning it occured to me that the comparison with razors is doubly wrong. To a first approximation, half of women use tampons for a quarter of a quarter of their lives; half of three quarters of men use razors for three quarters of their lives. They’re complaining about 5% vat on 1/4 * 1/4 * 3.125p per item, we have to put up with 20% vat on 3/4 * 3/4 * (can’t remember but more than 3.125p).

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