Idiot is idiot

The first is support us leaving the single market: no one said the vote meant that.

Second is leaving the customs union: that’s just economic suicide and I really do not think people voted for that.

Sigh.

12 comments on “Idiot is idiot

  1. The specific question asked did not mention leaving the single market. (And no, it is not ‘the same thing’ as the EU.) That is all that matters. Ideally of course the question should have been explicit on the point, but if you have to choose between the message on the campaign trail and the question as written, then the latter must win. You can imagine how we would feel if the boot was on the other foot; for example, voting for entering the common market but ending up with Maastricht and Lisbon without any public consultation or vote.

  2. From my observation, many who use the terms ‘Single Market’ and ‘Customs Union’ do not actually know what these are. (And the EU is not a Single Market in practice, but it is a Customs Union.)

    Hence they believe the UK can stay in the Customs Union but make trade deals independently with other Countries not part of the Union.

    And SNPers think part of a Single Market can simultaneously be part of a different Single Market.

    Others believe that import tariffs are paid by exporters.

    The worry is most of these people are in charge.

  3. @LTP

    “The specific question asked did not mention leaving the single market. (And no, it is not ‘the same thing’ as the EU.)”

    Yes it is and that is widely understood.

    The terms ‘Single Market’ and ‘EU’ are synonymous.

    From the EC website…

    “The Single Market refers to the EU as one territory without any internal borders or other regulatory obstacles to the free movement of goods and services.”

  4. JohnB

    “The Single Market refers to the EU as one territory without any internal borders or other regulatory obstacles to the free movement of goods and services.”

    That’s a definition of the Single Market, but it is not a statement that the EU and the Single Market are identical or synonymous.

    Moreover, since you say the Single Market doesn’t exist in practice, and if the EU and Single Market are synonymous, then the EU doesn’t exist in practice…. But the EU unfortunately does exist in practice, so it can’t be synonymous with the Single Market.

  5. “regulatory obstacles to the free movement of goods and services.”

    Which is in itself bollocks, as there is no single market in services.

  6. @Longrider, January 30, 2017 at 5:37 pm
    …and I really do not think people voted for that.

    “Er, yes, yes I did.”

    As did I. I want UK out of every EU/European legislature, court etc

  7. OT but I see our MPs have enough time on their hands to discuss USA immigration policy. Presumably all our problems have now been solved.

  8. On Sunday I’m sure I heard someone from the SNP suggest that Scotland should leave the customs union (to facilitate trade with rest of UK) and remain part of the single market.

    Is that even possible?

    Perhaps they should join NAFTA?

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