Aye up

MPs finally voted in favour of the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill by 498 votes to 114, with 47 Labour MPs, 50 SNP MPs and seven Liberal Democrats voting against.

Seems a fair margin, doesn’t it?

And I think we can argue that carrying out the referendum decision was a manifesto commitment, no? Thus the Lords had better get in line.

18 comments on “Aye up

  1. Thus avoiding the constitutional issue – who is ultimately sovereign? If the Parliament had voted otherwise, would the referendum have any power? Presumably it is just a giant opinion poll.

    These people keep fiddling with the constitution and they keep coming up with new problems. They should leave well alone.

    It is interesting to see that more SNP members voted against than Labour ones. Shades of the West Lothian question I suppose. Still, it is interesting to see the slight contrast between the SNP’s belief that a vote in Scotland ought to be binding (if they win) but a vote in Britain isn’t.

  2. Still, it is interesting to see the slight contrast between the SNP’s belief that a vote in Scotland ought to be binding (if they win) but a vote in Britain isn’t.

    Living in the heartland of the festering socialist gibbons, as I do, my faceache feed yesterday was full of the BBC clip of Stephen Gethins saying “Pooling our sovereignty and working together is a good thing.”

  3. Surreptitious Evil – “Living in the heartland of the festering socialist gibbons, as I do, my faceache feed yesterday was full of the BBC clip of Stephen Gethins saying “Pooling our sovereignty and working together is a good thing.””

    You know, in fairness, Scotland-in-Europe is actually a very attractive option. It could work very well for Jockistan. The problem is, as you say, they are festering socialist gibbons.

  4. The contrast between the attitude of the SNP when public opinion is with their cause, compared with when it is against is stark.

    They oppose Brexit on the grounds of the ref vote in Scotland, yet ignore the opinion polls which indicate a large majority in Scotland against a further indyref and a smaller majority still against a Yes vote.

    They are emphatically not democrats.

  5. Meanwhile Ritchie pronounces that the vote is not just economic suicide; it’s a democratic suicide too.

    So, if anyone can explain why the sovereign parliament’s de is ion to honour the de is ion of the electorate that put it there and which it represents is undemocratic, please do help

  6. Sturgeon’s position is simple. The 1.66m Scots who voted Remain are paramount, the 2m Scots who voted No are unimportant.

  7. So how does the SNP feel about pooling their sovreignity with the English and Welsh at Westminster?

    Oh, it’s different, you say?

    Howso?

  8. I have always found it somewhat curious that the SNP which is so keen to cast off the English yoke is simultaneously prepared to tie itself to Brussels, but as the legendary Bravefart points out they are democrats only in the sense that Kim Jong un and his ilk (turnouts of 99% plus at elections there) are. Agree with them and its democracy. Disagree and your voice is rejected. Indeed on my periodic reading of the KCNA website I find it significantly more coherent than the utterances of the likes of Mhairi Black or Tasmin Ahmed- Sheikh, or indeed Sturgeon herself (who paradoxically did more for Brexit than probably any other poltician)

  9. Theophrastus: Nick never wanted a referendum (as he never wanted the uni fees promise). It was us grass-roots members and activists who forced it on him. And the majority of the grass-roots who pushed for a referendum accept the result. In the main it’s only the damn-the-members-have-forced-this-policy-on-us leadership levels who want to overturn it.

  10. jgh
    Whatever Cleggie wanted or didn’t want, the Limp Dicks are colossal hypocrites on the EU referendum. All the Limp Dicks in these parts are with Farron in trying to frustrate the result – even the ageing swingers down the road.

  11. Since Clegg managed to fuck the LibDems to a point where you could get all their MPs in a Ford Transit, a lengthy period of silent reflection would seem to be in order. Three decades’ worth should do it. And as for Farron: I’m a political wonk and I couldn’t pick him out of a line-up if it were just him and an elderly Chinese woman. I literally (literally!) cannot call his face to mind. All I get is “generic white bloke”.

  12. Pcar,

    Good one. And Trump is castigated by the likes of Clegg, who at one time I had some respect for, for doing what he said he would.

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