MEPs are an organisation now, are they?

There were many fine and erudite contributions before Farage spoke. The values this place represents do instil a real sense of pride. But some of the comments focused on the need to have a constructive dialogue with Trump, as if he would somehow listen to reasoned and impassioned pleas from MEPs, an organisation he has repeatedly indicated he would want to be destroyed.

This is after the fuckwit has been filtered through the editorial process.

I’m a Labour Member of the European parliament for the London region, and Labour’s environment and climate change spokesperson in Europe, and there are many wonderful aspects of my job.

A requirement for basic intelligence not being one of them I guess.

Then again I was once at an MEP hustings at the NFU where a Lib Dem candidate insisted that Britain would still have the Schengen rights of free movement. She really just did not get, even after it was explained, that Britain was, always had been, outside Schengen.

33 comments on “MEPs are an organisation now, are they?

  1. Only the crudest sort of comedy skit, surely, would attempt such blatant double-speak.

    A callow, long-privileged MP, posh as turn-ups, rises on his hind legs in the House of Commons and drawlingly accuses supporters of Brexit of being ‘the monied elite’.

    This politician — himself stinking rich and elitist — is notorious for breaking a promise that he would not raise college fees for university students.

    Yet in his oration he claims to speak for ‘the youth of today’. His entire speech is an attack on the EU referendum result.

    The people’s verdict is dangerous, he avers, employing all the oratorical hand gestures of the pompous statesman.

    ‘Call me old-fashioned,’ he says, reaching for what he hopes is a Churchillian tone, ‘but when a country decides to go on a radical, uncompromising departure to a new and as yet entirely unpredictable future … it is a country embarking on a perilous path, and I hope our consciences will not pay for it.’

    .

    Guess the callow, long-privileged MP and party.

  2. The values this place represents do instil a real sense of pride

    That’s because you despise your own country, its history, its institutions and 90% of its population, yet fawn over people you can’t even communicate with in their own language.

    Pathetic.

  3. If you expand the abbreviation, it makes sense.

    “…reasoned and impassioned pleas from Members Of the European Parliament, an organisation…”

  4. I’m a Labour Member of the European parliament for the London region, and Labour’s environment and climate change spokesperson in Europe

    You have summarised yourself most succinctly in just one sentence.

  5. Pcar

    Guess the callow, long-privileged MP and party.

    “Mr Clegg’s nine-minute contribution was one of the most nakedly dishonest speeches I have had the misfortune to hear in the Commons. The man is as shameless as a charity store shoplifter.”

    🙂

  6. Trump could build some splendid hotels on the sites of the major EU buildings. Brussels is a lovely city apart from the EU buildings. But without the EU and NATO, could it support a Trump art nouveau extravaganza hotel?

  7. Hmmm.

    On 23 June 2016 the UK voted to leave the European Union. On 8 November 2016 Donald Trump won the US general election. Both events were seismic, in and of themselves,

    True.

    but it has been the reaction to them that is the most extraordinary part of the story so far.

    How?

    both have now risen to a new kind of status that leads online Twitter eggs gleefully to announce the end of liberal democracy and welcome the impending arrival of a new world order.

    So democracy is a Good Thing?

    Throughout this transformation to a new reality the response from many has been to fall over themselves to demonstrate the levels to which we understand this new direction and – terrifyingly – how we will acquiesce to it.

    I’M TERRIFIED OF ACQUIESCING TO THIS DEMOCRACY MALARKY!

    the idea that immigration and internationalism are the roots of all evil is becoming more and more an accepted fact.

    Unwanted immigration and unelected supranational lotus eaters have caused many evils to befall us, though.

    immigration has been massively important in contributing not just to our societies

    Quite. When I was a boy, in the racist olden days, we’d never even heard of Sharia law.

    but to the health of our economy

    We’ll all get rich selling each other kebabs.

    and public services

    Which immigrants are overwhelmingly free riders on.

    When you start using lies to construct so-called solutions to the actual problems people face day in and out, you end up building an entire machinery of deceit.

    I believe the preferred term is “European Parliament”.

    There were many fine and erudite contributions before Farage spoke.

    No there weren’t.

    The values this place represents do instil a real sense of pride.

    No it doesn’t.

    But some of the comments focused on the need to have a constructive dialogue with Trump, as if he would somehow listen to reasoned and impassioned pleas from MEPs, an organisation he has repeatedly indicated he would want to be destroyed.

    Giving the guy the respect he’s due as POTUS and trying to find common ground might work, might not. But why take the chance? If there’s one thing Trump is bound to respect, it’s poncy Europols braying invective his way.

    Again, I sat there frustrated, feeling that the sheer mendacity of Trump’s justifications for his travel ban were not being challenged.

    Have we fallen through a space vortex and entered an alternate universe in which the United States’ immigration policies on people from the Middle East have even the teensiest, tiniest, Jimmy Krankiest sized thing to do with this preposterously preening, posturing, perfumed popinjay? Not sure what the American is for “jog on”.

    It’s time to stop the nuanced language and call out lies where we see them.

    Because calling people nazis and racists and big fat lying McLiarpants worked so well before.

  8. PF. I have to say that you are positively doing down charity store shop lifters. I’m sure that they have far more integrity than Clegg.

  9. The lack of self awareness is breathtaking.

    And these people get elected. Democracy is far from perfect indeed!

  10. I’ve been to local branch meetings where most of the time was spent argueing over what that year’s campaign group should be called and none on deciding whether we should actually have any candidates this year – with “this” year being too late to start thinking about this. The county council elections start in TWO MONTHS, leaflets should have been going out last July, February is way too late to be deciding whether and where to even have candidates.

    And you wonder why my town hasn’t had any LD candidates, let alone councillors, for decades.

  11. Diogenes – “Trump could build some splendid hotels on the sites of the major EU buildings. Brussels is a lovely city apart from the EU buildings.”

    Can I just second the idea that Brussels is a lovely city? And so unusual to be spoken to politely by native French speakers. I couldn’t believe it.

    Just keep away from the Muslim No-go zones, stay in a nice hotel right in the centre of the town, and it is one of the nicest places to live or visit in Europe

  12. The Brussels south station is a real no go area unless you want to look at sheep carcasses and hand grenades

  13. Diogenes – “The Brussels south station is a real no go area unless you want to look at sheep carcasses and hand grenades”

    And it is a little hard to get from the Station to the town. There really is no choice but a taxi.

    Diogenes – “Totally agreed smfs… I never thought I would write that”

    Well perfection is a trait of the Divine and is not an option for mere mortals. So some of the time we will be right, some of the time we will be wrong.

    And obviously you can’t be wrong all the time.

  14. ‘When people speak the truth – that immigration has been massively important in contributing not just to our societies but to the health of our economy and public services’

    WTF does immigration have to do with the invasion taking place today? Seb Dance is a dick.

    That this is about immigration is from the machinery of deceit. So one wonders, is Dance lying, or is he just reading it off the teleprompter and doesn’t understand what he’s reading?

  15. “Mr Juncker was a very adequate mayor I think of some city in Luxembourg, and maybe he should go back and do that again,” he said.

  16. And you wonder why my town hasn’t had any LD candidates, let alone councillors, for decades.

    Sensible town.

    The Brussels south station is a real no go area unless you want to look at sheep carcasses and hand grenades

    Surely it cannot be worse than Gare du Nord. Like Peckham Rye, only bigger and more sinister.

  17. You won’t get mugged around Peckham Rye. You will around Paris North and Brussels South, and in any case a tiny station in a London suburb is not comparable to a big city terminus.

    “And it is a little hard to get from the Station to the town. There really is no choice but a taxi.”

    I cannot comprehend the kind of confusion that could provoke such a statement. Take a fucking train!!! It’s free as there are no barriers and nobody checks tickets until the train leaves Brussels!

    “stay in a nice hotel right in the centre of the town”

    Anyone suggesting this has obviously never stayed in Brussels city centre. Your bags are likely to be stolen while you are checking in. And never leave anything in your room, ever (use the chain when you are inside and if there is a balcony, make sure the door is locked!!)

  18. It’s always so satisfying when you reach the end of a Graun article & get to that mendicant panel at the bottom.
    They can’t even sell this rubbish.

  19. I’m a Labour Member of the European parliament for the London region, and Labour’s environment and climate change spokesperson in Europe

    That’s the most long-winded description of “cunt” I’ve ever seen.

  20. Well at least Seb Dance can be held up as an example of what you get every time someone proposes PR and list systems. That should kill the suggestion.

  21. Rob: it’s not the town that choses the candidates. The one time a local did get permission from Head Office to stand some 20-odd years ago he was swept in as an anybody-but-a-Tory candidate.

  22. ‘The Guardian has warned staff to expect further heavy losses, as the newspaper said it expects to burn through another £90m in cash this year.’ – The Telegraph, BWO https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/heavy-losses-at-the-guardian/

    Burning through £250,000 a day, and they still think they can afford to give jobs to people like Seb Dance. And Fishwick, et al.

    Joining in the race to the bottom:

    “Most Read from The Washington Post: Kellyanne Conway cites ‘Bowling Green massacre’ that never happened to defend travel ban”

    Conway misspelled ‘potatoes,’ so we must have communism.

  23. “Conway cites ‘Bowling Green massacre’ that never happened to defend travel ban

    Conway misspelled ‘potatoes,’ so we must have communism”

    Are you stupid?

    She was on TV saying that the Bowling Green Massacre occurred. It didn’t, nor did the Iraqis, who were caught and imprisoned, plot to kill Americans.

    She deliberately sought to misinform, I’m surprised people on here aren’t calling for her execution.

  24. I’m confused, ‘cos I’m not familiar with this story…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/03/bowling-green-massacre-kellyanne-conway-mocked-using-alternative/

    It is believed she was referring to two Iraqis in Bowling Green, Kentucky, who were convicted of terrorist activities after killing US soldiers in 2011. However, the incident happened in Iraq.

    Mohanad Shareef Hammadi and Waad Ramadan Alwan were sentenced to life for using improvised explosive devices (IEDs) against American soldiers.

    Did two Iraqis murder US squaddies then get let into the country, or did they not?

  25. LOL IGNORANT TRUMPKINS GETTING THEIR MOSLEM MASSACRES MIXED UP WHAT A BUNCH OF IGNORANT ISLAMOPHOBES AMIRITE

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