This is all entirely true

You arrive at your school. Its funding is tax-based and so the asphalt playground is cracked in every direction, barely holding up a rusty goal post attached to a rimless, equally-rusted backboard. You rip and run across the front, eagerly waiting to get in because you are one of the lucky kids who qualifies for breakfast vouchers. (Some of your friends don’t qualify even though their parents can’t really afford to feed them in the morning.) You’re a nice person, so you share, and together you feast on microwaved eggs, syrupy fruit cups and grayish-greenish mystery meat. You like to wash it down with strawberry whole milk, but don’t forget to check the expiration date, because you hate the taste of grainy sour chunks that float in the old boxes.

A guy in a colorful tie says, “Hello!” as you bite into the mystery meat. You wave back. He doesn’t know your name, and you don’t know his. He’s the principal, but you don’t know that, because he’s the third one in four months. They tend to quit often around here. You finish breakfast and head to class. Your path is covered with cigarillo tips, crumpled papers and an occasional desk. The stairwell smells like hot fries and boiled piss. You follow the trail of trash straight to your class.

Inner city education systems in the US really can be, are, like this.

The author is from Baltimore:

The Baltimore school system ranked second among the nation’s 100 largest school districts in how much it spent per pupil in fiscal year 2011, according to data released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau.

The city’s $15,483 per-pupil expenditure was second to New York City’s $19,770. Rounding out the top five were Montgomery County, which spent $15,421; Milwaukee public schools at $14,244; and Prince George’s County public schools, which spent $13,775.

Hmm, maybe it’s the way the money is spent, not the amount of it, which is the problem?

59 comments on “This is all entirely true

  1. Jesus, that’s a lot of cash per student. There are very desirable – and desired – private schools in the UK with far less.

    And yet the results are so different…

  2. The last Republican mayor of Baltimore left office in 1971. The National Education Association is little more Democratic Party political action committee.

    Do the math.

    Neither the Democrats nor the teachers’ union give a shit about the negroes in Baltimore. They’re bought and paid for.

  3. “Neither the Democrats nor the teachers’ union give a shit about the negroes in Baltimore. They’re bought and paid for.”

    Why do black majority cities keep voting for the same people who have landed them in the shit? How long do you have to wallow in the filth before the penny drops?

  4. I was a school governor at a UK school which had gone downhill since I was a pupil there. I was Chair of Site, and thing we used to start turning it around was to prioritise infrastructure. Graffiti or a broken window never lasted more than a couple of hours, litter removed as soon as it was seen. If the site isn’t a dump the staff and pupils don’t feel like they’re working in a dump. We were making very good progress until the local council closed the school and replaced it with a brand new school.

  5. Ironman – that’s why school choice is such an explosive issue in these cities. For $15 000 per student, pretty much any dope can set up a school that’s far better than the public schools – rent an office building, hire young university grads, farm out non-teaching work to contractors – and still make a tidy profit. The difference (even just in safety and quality of facilities) is so big and obvious that parents are clamoring for it, against all the advice of the teachers’ unions.

  6. I hate to be a dick, or even a thick.racist.prick, but from what I gather Baltimore is basically Africa. With the best will in the world, no amount of money will “fix” it. Vouchers may make some marginal improvements, but won’t magically transform the kids into elite Chinese mathletes.

    The US has already spent trillions on its black citizens. If money was the issue all their problems would’ve been fixed by now.

  7. “Average day fees in the UK are £15,500” so there will indeed be many (especially outside London?) that provide a good service for <$15,500.

    And that's not allowing for the possibility that the Baltimore figures include primary schools whereas the Independent's may not.

  8. Come to think of it, the Baltimore figures are about expenditure while those British figures are about fees. But part of the fees will be spent on subsidising schooling for the impecunious, so the full fees probably exaggerate the costs.

  9. dearieme,
    You forgot to convert dollars to pounds. You can still find a handful of secondary schools for less than £12,300 a year; but not “far less”, as Ironman said.

  10. Oh and those cheaper private schools often have substantial endowments, so again not comparable with Baltimore.

    Wouldn’t that be a great name for a curry house?

  11. ““their parents can’t really afford to feed them in the morning”. But no doubt continue to breed”

    That.

    And if we’d get $15500 per pupil at my primary school (we get about $6000), we literally wouldn’t know what to do with it.

  12. @Jim: “Why do black majority cities keep voting for the same people who have landed them in the shit? How long do you have to wallow in the filth before the penny drops?”

    Well, if this supposedly-explanatory passage is anything to go by, a hell of a long time:

    “…black people came to America in 1619 and received no form of formal education until 1863 after Lincoln had decreed the Emancipation Proclamation, which basically means that white students had a 244-year head start in developing school culture…”

    I mean, where do you even start to combat this nihilism?

  13. The inimitable Steve

    I feel a bit like contradicting God himself begging to differ but I think you’ll find educational standards in parts of Africa (admittedly not all) substantially higher than in majority black schools in Baltimore, or in parts of London even. The Hard Left in either the UK or the Us has no interest in ethnic minorities being able to think for themselves – such an outcome might lose one’s ability to pay a mortgage and that is their priority certainly – such beings are rarer in Africa…..

  14. “a 244-year head start in developing school culture…”

    Ask them whether they’re arguing that black kids are genetically poor students.

  15. The Wire series 4. Brilliant, cold, devastating critique of Baltimore schools. With a downer ending – the bureaucracy stifles change.

  16. “Ask them whether they’re arguing that black kids are genetically poor students.”

    ‘Inter-generational trauma’ is to blame, apparently.

  17. Julia

    Of course, it’s even worse than that, and it’s shocking – shocking – that a Professor at Baltimore didn’t know that it’s not 244 year head start but much, much more. My ‘high school’ (in England) was re-founded in 1563, with its origins possibly going back to the 1100’s, thereby giving a fairly large number of ‘white students’ a really terribly unfair headstart on those in the USA….

    But wait:
    “The earliest formal, Western schools were founded in West Africa, attached to the castles in the Gold Coast, modern day Ghana. There were three of such schools; the oldest was established at Elmina by the Dutch West Indian Company in 1644 “…. and “The concept of education in Africa was not a colonial invention. Prior to European colonization and subsequent introduction of Western education, traditional educational systems existed in Africa. ” – both from http://what-when-how.com/western-colonialism/education-western-africa-western-colonialism/ (I stumbled upon this as an early Google result – I do not claim any domain knowledge nor that the source is solid – but it sounds about right).

    So the Professor is actually as higgerant as shit. Quelle surprise, as we say in Tejas…

  18. Still trying to get my noggin around the “244-year head start” bit.

    No way any white student got a 244-year headstart, ‘cos no-one lives that long.

    “White country” might, but then that benefit would confer on the black and white students unless you run apartheid, which I don’t think the US does. Sounds like it spends more on black than white, in this case.

  19. @Theophrastus yeah, I’ve heard of that. Sounds like it’s arguing white people are less likely to abuse their kids, because colonialism or something.

  20. Baltimore is and has been for decades run by leftists.

    The brass-neck bastard who wrote the piece wants more money . To try and put right the God-awful mess created by the left’s wasting of the colossal resources they have pissed against the wall in creating the mess he is whining about.

    And of course the shitty state of the school is largely due to the manners and morals of its pupils. If garbage and the stink of piss is everywhere is that because wicked white racists are running around strewing trash and pissing with the abandon of wild animals?

    “So your name is DeVos, but your friends call you Dev for short. Your school sits way up on a hill that overlooks a collection of housing projects. The housing projects, your neighborhood, are chock-full of African Americans. Not because African Americans like housing projects, but because the 1944 G.I Bill was funny with the money.”

    Really Liar? this tells a rather different story.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_the_United_States

    “See, the bill allowed white World War II veterans to return home after the war and instantly qualify for inexpensive mortgages on the new houses that eventually became known as the suburbs.”

    Mortages have to be repaid all the same Dickwad. Renting “govt” property and saving longer term for your own place would have seen most blacks in and owning their own homes. So what went wrong?

    “Many of those same white men were able to use that bill to pay for university educations, and after they graduated the bill helped them started businesses with low-interest loans that ultimately created an indestructible social fabric for them to hire their white kids and white friends so they could fully participate in the American dream.”

    So white men are ENTIRELY state-subsidised are they? Think you got your races mixed up chum.

    ” Meanwhile, the bulk of African American vets were denied home loans and college acceptance as the racist policies in place slam-dunked them right in the middle of the projects.”

    So blacks weren’t able to rent govt housing and save for a mortgage on their own home then? Like the black US middle-class has done. Or did those subsidised housing folk decide to spend their cash on other things?

    “Back to you, Dev, and the projects around you chock-full of African Americans. Together, you join hands with friends and skip up the hill to your beloved school. Now, all of your neighborhood friends can’t come, because some are being bussed to charter schools in unfamiliar neighborhoods full of people and dangers that you don’t know. Maybe they’ll make it home safe, maybe they won’t.”

    That’s the doing of your Gubmint mates Lefty.

    “You arrive at your school. Its funding is tax-based and so the asphalt playground is cracked in every direction, barely holding up a rusty goal post attached to a rimless, equally-rusted backboard.”

    That would be likely old age rather tax-caused Numbnuts. As in “How many times is the taxpayer gonna pay for new stuff that then gets trashed by the denizens of your deep?”. Beyond a certain point even leftist morons realise that they might as well burn the cash –it would be quicker and easier. And stop renewing and repairing.

    “You rip and run across the front, eagerly waiting to get in because you are one of the lucky kids who qualifies for breakfast vouchers. (Some of your friends don’t qualify even though their parents can’t really afford to feed them in the morning.) ”

    So your puke parents have dropped you in the world tho they are too feckless, stupid, pre-occupied with vice and/or criminally uncaring/psychopathic to be able to afford to look after you. Even then , we are supposed to believe that only some kids qualify for a govt handout breakfast? Because why? Their parents are better off than yours but they still can’t be arsed to feed their lids –so the kid gets nothing.? And you think this shows how awful white folks are?

    “You’re a nice person, so you share, and together you feast on microwaved eggs, syrupy fruit cups and grayish-greenish mystery meat.”

    Really? So a nation –whose Federal Alphabet pukes have the money and time ( which really equals more money) to absolutely persecute Americans who want to drink raw milk allows kids to be served up “grey-green “meat–does it? How many kids die from food poisoning. And are those schools not run by your leftist Democrat friends?

    ” You like to wash it down with strawberry whole milk, but don’t forget to check the expiration date,”

    Because Whitey gets off on poisoning little black kids.

    ” because you hate the taste of grainy sour chunks that float in the old boxes.”

    So your Democratic black-run city and its school authorities serve up milk to kids so old and out of date that the cartons are dissolving? Even assuming its true–which I don’t.

    Must be Whitey’s fault somehow.

    “A guy in a colorful tie says, “Hello!” as you bite into the mystery meat. You wave back. He doesn’t know your name, and you don’t know his. He’s the principal, but you don’t know that, because he’s the third one in four months.”

    The others were shot/stabbed or frightened away then? Must be those white Aryan drive-by shootings again.

    ” They tend to quit often around here. You finish breakfast and head to class. Your path is covered with cigarillo tips, crumpled papers and an occasional desk. The stairwell smells like hot fries and boiled piss. You follow the trail of trash straight to your class.”

    Nothing to do with the black student population obviously.

    “Your teacher hugs you every morning you make it in and sneers at the boys who wrestle in the back of the room, while their friends record the fight videos for World Starr.”

    Its sort of your job to you know—teach them isn’t it? However I won’t minimise the danger/difficulty of having a class full of thugs and drug dealers created by socialism and welfare and one parent bastardy and drug/booze abuse and general scummy habits that are–of course–in no way the fault of the black folk actually doing those things.

    ““They don’t understand how important education is,” your teacher says. “They are gonna fail and it’s they own fault.” 2

    Say what? Be a wasting, drugged up violent scumbag and your failure is your own fault???!!!! You fucking Nazi bitch!!!

    “Your teacher doesn’t understand, because she’s not really a teacher; she’s an aide who fills in as a crossing guard, janitor, mentor, grandma, security guard and whatever else the school needs her to be that day.”

    Because black Democrat cities are shitholes who have run themselves in the ground with their socialist bullshit.

    “She doesn’t get that black people came to America in 1619 and received no form of formal education until 1863 after Lincoln had decreed the Emancipation Proclamation, which basically means that white students had a 244-year head start in developing school culture, let alone being exposed to math, science, critical thought and understanding the power of reading.”

    If by formal education he means state education there was none in the UK before 1870 but most of the population could read and literacy rates were rising.

    As for “school culture” I got my intro to that the first morning in infants school. Is he trying to say that black people need 244 years to get the idea that you sit down, shut up and listen to Teacher. Which is the difficult bit? Wicked Whitey had stopped blacks from sitting down and listening for 244 years and they had forgotten how?

    ” Your teacher is a good woman who can probably give you some great insights; however, she didn’t finish high school or college,”

    So how is she a Teacher then? Not that I am fetishising qualifications. In the 19th century UK many old women earned a few coppers teaching kids to read–such arrangements are beyond the wit of black people are they? Of course not–but it seems the idiot who writes for Salon has a different opinion of his own peoples capabilities.

    ” like many of the people in your neighborhood, so you probably can’t see past accomplishing that, especially since the average person in America only goes as far in education as their parents did.”

    So all Americans are idiots–says the Salon idiot.

    “The rest of your day will include a number of classes like your first period with the aide. There’s also the young, fresh-out-of-college teacher who wants to make a difference but can’t figure out how to split three textbooks between 35 children, so she transfers that anger onto you­­.”

    Vast sums pass thro Education Dept hands=3 textbooks per class. Better check out your Black Democrat then eh> After deducting the costs of armed school guards , metal detectors etc.

    “She’ll quit soon.”

    Good.

    “Then there’s art class with the substitute who pays more attention to his phone than his job, lunch with different color mystery meat, gym if you are lucky, and then back to your neighborhood full of the same school culture that guarantees a permanent underclass in America will always exist. Some make it out, but most don’t have a shot.”

    And whose fucking fault is all that? Trillions of dollars have gone to Welfare handouts and gubmint spending and 98% of It might as well have been bonfire. Your Black Democrat leaders are either criminals or morons or both.

    “This is not just my experience, but a mixture of the experiences of my family members, closest friends and the many young people I mentor, combined with those of the students in many urban schools I have visited across the country.”

    And all of it is Whiteys fault isn’t it. Black people have had NO hand at all in the shitty state of majority black population cities have they? You fucking wish.

    “DeVos, who appears to know little about public education, financial aid or anything that non-billionaires go through, needs to understand that this is the system that she is about to inherit. More importantly, this is what her average day would look like as a student in an underfunded public school if she weren’t lucky enough to be a billionaire.”

    Being a billionaire has very little to do with luck Son.

    “Again, President Donald Trump is proving that he doesn’t care about the bottom 99 percent of America (including his supporters) ”

    Again?–he’s only been in 2 weeks

    “by throwing public education into the hands of DeVos — a person who supposedly has decades of experience in education but can’t even come up with her own answers to confirmation hearing questions.”

    Considering those will be leftist sharks trying to trip her up for propaganda purposes , say nowt is likely the best policy.

    ” Is this happening, or is it a dream?”

    Your Freddie Fucking Mercury now are you?

    “Our nation is close to confirming a clueless, disconnected, GOP super-donor with too much family money who believes that guns should be in schools because of possible grizzly bear attacks? Wow.”

    What would you do with a Grizzley Bear Numb-Nuts? Ask him to be nice? Just hope he isn’t a RoP convert.

    “I wonder how many poor schools DeVos has visited? If she’s been to more than one she’d know that charter schools are not always the answer. And she doesn’t have to go far — she could start with the string of failed or flailing charter schools in Michigan. She didn’t send her kids to one of those schools, and rightfully so.”

    She’s too old to done so Dummy. And if charter schools don’t cut it then do something else. More money into the same Marxist mess you and your Democrat buddies have made certainly isn’t any answer.

    “But there’s a theory in which her financial interest in mediocre charter solutions makes sense. You see, her family money comes from Amway, a company that sells the dream of entrepreneurship and financial freedom by convincing people that selling its products can create wealth.”

    She’s running an Amway scam? Even for you that’s dumb.

    “Most people who try multilevel marketing fail “as the top execs get paid off of the extremely high registration fees.”

    It’s the same with socialism. Except Amway hasn’t murdered 150 million human beings. Or ruined the school system.

    “If young people aren’t educated properly, many will drop out of school or graduate without the skills to make good decisions.”

    Future Democrat voters.

    ” Those kids could grow up to do really stupid things, like signing up for Amway in search of wealth that will never come.””

    Or supporting socialism. And doing a few tens of millions more murders as well.

    ” Sooner or later, that money could just flow back to her.”

    Since your gang will only waste it–it might as well.

  21. I enjoyed that right to the end. I knew it was going to be good when I read this bit:

    “The brass-neck bastard who wrote the piece wants more money . To try and put right the God-awful mess created by the left’s wasting of the colossal resources they have pissed against the wall in creating the mess he is whining about.”

    Freddy Mercury? Islamic grizzly bears?

    Superb!

  22. There’s a strong chance those RINO cunts Murkowski and Collins will torpedo Betsy DeVos. If so, they must be made to pay. The teachers’ unions need a PATCO-like nuking. Unfortunately the destruction of public employee unions is probably beyond even Trump. He could presumably outlaw federal unions in the same way that JFK (cynically) permitted them, but killing the NEA is likely impossible.

  23. Ecks is making a strong case to be called the Ron Jeremy of the comments section, and all without use of blue pills I venture.

  24. BiCR,

    > He could presumably outlaw federal unions in the same way that JFK (cynically) permitted them

    Sadly their rights are now enshrined in Jimmy Carter’s Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, so it’ll take more than an Executive Order to get rid of them.

  25. NYC almost 20,000 a year … 20k times 20 kids per class is 400,000

    rent a 600 sq ft studio in Manhattan for 3k/ month thats 36,000

    500 for books, 500 for a desk times 20kids is 10,000

    breakfast burrito and a subway sandwich lunch is 10 bucks per kid per day times 5 days week times 30 weeks times 20 kids is another 30,000

    thats what, roughly 76k … so you’re left with roughly 325,000 from the 400,000 per class budget

    for 325,000 I could hire Aristotle to teach your kids

    there wouldnt be a lot of ballfields, or computer labs …. but youre kids could be taught by Aristotle

    dont tell me there is no waste in public education

    (hat tip to PJ O’R)

  26. I feel a bit like contradicting God himself begging to differ but I think you’ll find educational standards in parts of Africa (admittedly not all) substantially higher than in majority black schools in Baltimore, or in parts of London even.

    After 16 years of dealing with African immigrants on a daily basis, I can safely say my experience is that irrespective of standards, Africans view education with a greater degree of seriousness than most Americans, irrespective of race. I watched more than one return thousands of dollars of first-time homebuyers credit to the federal government just to get out of the Columbus School District and into a suburban school district. And these were not wealthy people, by any means.

  27. Oppressed minorities always do badly.
    Consider the Jews. 1,900 years of Anti-Jewish laws and outright persecution.
    They only gain one-third of Nobel prizes in the hard sciences. Must be society’s fault.

  28. I know the head of Pate’s Gramnar School in Cheltenham. Look it up – it outperforms the best public schools (including my own). They do select but they work fucking miracles with £4,000 pa per kid.

  29. “they work fucking miracles with £4,000 pa per kid”

    You don’t need that much money to teach kids that are a) clever, b) want to learn, and c) have significant pro educational attainment parental support.

  30. “their parents can’t really afford to feed them in the morning”.

    I expect if we set up a camera at the school gates we wouldn’t see thin parents tearfully dropping their hungry kids off at school, but mega-whales. I just don’t get the impression that malnutrition is a big problem among blacks in the USA.

  31. All of the Nigerians I have met and worked with are very well educated and polite beyond even the norms of British society.

  32. “…black people came to America in 1619 and received no form of formal education until 1863 after Lincoln had decreed the Emancipation Proclamation, which basically means that white students had a 244-year head start in developing school culture…”

    I’m going to get drunk. No other option after that.

  33. “You forgot to convert dollars to pounds.”

    No I fucking didn’t. Your claim to be a mind reader is moronic.

  34. For anyone who believes the US would have a better & cheaper healthcare system by allowing the US government to run it entirely just needs to look a US public education for a taster.

  35. Thomas Sowell has been saying for thirty or forty years that welfare destroyed the black family and the black community.

    Leftists want more welfare. It just that simple. And just dead fucking wrong. They really are complete cunts.

  36. Hmm, maybe it’s the way the money is spent, not the amount of it, which is the problem?

    Well maybe. US spending has risen massively since the 1970s but actual results have not improved.

    However for Baltimore there is another problem. It is basically Africa. Well meaning people have tried to change Black education results for two generations now. Every idea that can be tried has been tried. The needle has not moved an inch. It is, as things currently stand now, utterly impossible to change Black educational outcomes. I think there is likely to be a way – involving less well meaning and a lot less liberal people perhaps, maybe the Christian Brothers – but what it is, I don’t know. Nor does anyone else.

    You could spent ten times that much and still get the same result. You could also spend ten times less.

  37. Van_Patten – “I feel a bit like contradicting God himself begging to differ but I think you’ll find educational standards in parts of Africa (admittedly not all) substantially higher than in majority black schools in Baltimore, or in parts of London even.”

    Which parts? Would that be Liberia where every single student recently failed their college entrance exam:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-23843578

    Or Kenya where large parts of the system were failed for allowing students to cheat?

    It is hard to work out what Africa’s problem is. Most people don’t like the obvious genetic explanation. So let’s rule that out. We know that hunger and disease affect the brains of growing children. Diseases like Zika may well have a greater effect on brain development than we think. The solution in the past would be to allow an aristocracy to develop. Their children would get proper nutrition and health care. Eventually everyone else would catch up.

    African socialism means that is not going to work. What other solutions are there? The mean African IQ is something like 60.

  38. Right wing bastard: “White people spend millions on educating black people. Problem is,” drags dem pol forward, “dis nigga steal it.”
    Class: “How I get dat nigga’s job?”

  39. @SMFS. You are being too pessimistic about average African IQ. There is a great site that was run by a Prof is something or other. One if the last articles shows the IQ mean and deviation for a range of countries. It shows the average IQ of a European is higher than the 95th percentile in some African nations. From this one has to question the distribution of intelligence in the US.

    http://drjamesthompson.blogspot.sg/2016/12/africa-and-cold-beauty-of-maths.html?m=1

  40. Your path is covered with cigarillo tips, crumpled papers and an occasional desk. The stairwell smells like hot fries and boiled piss. You follow the trail of trash straight to your class.

    That’s not the government, mate. That’s the people who live there.

  41. There’s a strong chance those RINO cunts Murkowski and Collins will torpedo Betsy DeVos. If so, they must be made to pay. The teachers’ unions need a PATCO-like nuking.

    What the fuck are the teachers unions supposed to do about the ineducable students?

    Look, I’m not defending teachers unions who are fucking up the education of those who can genuinely be educated. There certainly are some that are doing just that- generally by opposing streaming, and supporting practices like ignoring violence against teachers when it’s (disproportionately) committed by non-Asian minorities.

    But Devos’s charter bullshit is not the solution. Yes, inner-city charters are good, they allow grammar-school type segregation of the better class of blacks and Hispanics from the untalented 90%. But put the rest- who would be better off in hard labour from the 7th grade onwards- into those schools, and they will be ruined just like the public schools were.

    The US public school system does as good a job of educating Northeast Asians as anywhere in the world. It does almost as good a job of educating its mass of Northern/Central/Western and even Southern European hybrids as many of the Nordic countries do. It has the best, the greatest school marks for Hispanics. And it achieves better PISA ratings for West Africans than any West African country, including that country which Lincoln intended to send them all back to.

    There is no free-market solution to the problem of human inequality, except boat and plane tickets for everyone to achieve the best they can among their own.

  42. SMFS

    If I had to pinpoint you could probably look at Botswana, parts of Uganda, Rwanda. Liberia I agree is a complete train wreck (and I’m not sure anyone can blame that on colonialism as it was never a colony) – For several other countries (Eritrea, Chad, CAR et al) I’d wager standards were/ are very low.

    Is it genetic? – I don’t think so as there are people from those countries who do very well in the right environment (Usually abroad!) I actually suggest the solution is to allow an educated class to develop. Unfortunately the level of corruption in many of these countries is so great that ‘the worst get on top’ so you have a criminal cabal running the country – hence why so many are choosing to escape and find their way into Europe…

    I know this is an area where you hold opinions that some find controversial. I am hoping any debate will be of a type which once again performs the function of ensuring some of the more sceptical realise we are not the same person posting under different noms de plume….

  43. Andrew – “It shows the average IQ of a European is higher than the 95th percentile in some African nations.”

    No wonder he is posting from the safety of Singapore.

    Paul Rain – “That’s not the government, mate. That’s the people who live there.”

    Yeah but White people make them p!ss in the staircase. Because racism or something.

    Van_Patten – “If I had to pinpoint you could probably look at Botswana, parts of Uganda, Rwanda.”

    Botswana is doing alright politically because it remained aligned to Britain. But its economy is a bunch of White people mining for diamonds and a lot of Black people herding cattle. There isn’t a lot of cross over. Rwanda had the sense to give up French and apply to join the Commonwealth so there must be something there. They will be playing cricket next.

    “Is it genetic? – I don’t think so as there are people from those countries who do very well in the right environment (Usually abroad!)”

    Who? Such as? How many outstanding African scientists have we trained over the years? Two Chinese scientists won a Nobel prize back in 1957 – when they were born China was probably poorer than most of Africa.

    “I actually suggest the solution is to allow an educated class to develop. Unfortunately the level of corruption in many of these countries is so great”

    Indeed. And socialism is not helping an educated class develop either. Africans only have one solution which is to import someone else’s educated people. That used to be White colonial officials. It still is White missionaries. More and more it is Chinese businessmen. Hopefully this will generate enough wealth to make a difference. Even though it didn’t in South Africa.

    I don’t know why anything I say should be controversial. It is not as if any of it isn’t true.

  44. What the effing hell are they doing with that money? In the primary school where I’m a governor (and chair the finance committee) we get around £4k per pupil. We’ve got a hugely mixed intake (small minority of white British children, big mix of other backgrounds), an old Victorian listed building that takes a lot to keep going, 40 ish languages spoken and large groups of kids whose parents seemingly couldn’t give a toss about school. We’re just below average in the results, which given the low base the kids start at is a bloody miracle.

    Oh, and we run a small budget surplus every year, ’cause financial prudence is bloody important.

    Give me and our current head teacher that school with that budget, and importantly full hiring and firing powers and we’d kick it right back into shape.

  45. SMFS

    I didn’t say I found them controversial – forthright, but not unjustified.

    All good points. Re: the second query – is having a Nobel Prize winner the sole criteria for contributing to civilisation. From memory a number of African students have got into Russell Group universities (some even in challenging subjects) – obviously Rome was not built in a day but the trend is in the right direction

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