Err, why would we want to love?

How can men support feminists on social media and beyond?
Carmen Fishwick

Of course, equality feminists get our support by being treated equally. The screaming harpies, why should we?

A tweet has the ability to catapult an important issue from obscurity into public consciousness, and inform news agendas around the world. Tilting the balance of power is arguably social media’s most valuable asset. But who should own the debate, and how should it be reported?

We’d like you to share your thoughts on how men can best support feminists, and women in general, on social media. Or maybe you’re a man who works or supports equality campaigns and has advice for others.

The Guardian is hoping readers will write their next article for them. Bonus points for anyone who manages to get them to print the word “sammich”

42 comments on “Err, why would we want to love?

  1. The best thing we can do for them is tell them to shut up, get back in the kitchen and make us a sandwich.

    Not our fault if they won’t listen.

  2. “Don’t you worry your little head about it. We’ll sort this equality thing out for you. Now, could you make me a nice cup of tea, please? White, no sugar.”

    That should do it.

  3. A tweet has the ability to catapult an important issue from obscurity into public consciousness, and inform news agendas around the world.

    Really? And I thought Twitter was just an echo chamber for virtue-signallers. Silly me.

  4. Theophrastus – “And I thought Twitter was just an echo chamber for virtue-signallers. Silly me.”

    So did I. Until Trump. Now I have to admit they are kind of right.

    The problem is Twitter doesn’t do so well with boring cliches and trite commonplaces everyone knows they are supposed to believe. It spreads something that is so truthful that hits with the power of a bucket of ice cold water much better. So the feminists are flat out of luck.

  5. Betas desperate for a shag? Even then, it’s probably cheaper to just pay for a blowjob than take a train to London to protest about something.

  6. Bloke in Wiltshire – “Even then, it’s probably cheaper to just pay for a blowjob than take a train to London to protest about something.”

    Not to mention you might actually get a blow job.

  7. One of the two links in the Guardian article (under “those fighting to be heard”) points to an article about oppressed women in the Central African Republic. If the harpies on Twitter and in the streets were protesting about the problems faced by women in places like that, then I’d have some sympathy. As it stands, their main complaint seems to be that men don’t pay enough attention to them.

  8. Oh FFS

    Does that HRW tit have a team virtue-signalling for him, or does he just bash that crap out Murphy-style? He’s prodigiously Twatting.

  9. ‘How can men support feminists?’

    How can we help Muslims kill us?

    How can we destroy Western civilization?

    How can we end freedom and liberty?

    Equally important questions asked by the Left.

  10. Carmen’s got a problem. She thinks some men can help. It would be better if men didn’t help, since she ought to be able to handle it just fine on her own but since she can’t really stop them and some will continue to insist that they help her and the problem she’s got really is quite a tough one she needs some help from a man to decide what to ask other men to do to help her solve her problem.

  11. To echo the excellent Gamecock

    Other questions we can ask:

    How can Christians help Islamic State?

    How can evangelicals assist advocates of Full LGBT equality, including Marriage?

    How can Whites assist Black radicals in further balkanisation of society?

    How can good people of good conscience assist Richard Murphy?

    The article is, even by Guardian standards, one of the most idiotic I have ever seen – Carmen Fishwick is clearly one to monitor in the future….

  12. Why would she need help from men anyway? Aren’t third wave feminists super strong, sassy and superior to men?

  13. Indeed Rob. Not only smarter; they can also beat us in a fist fight.

    (Although in the case of male feminists, like JJ Abrams, Joss Whedon and Simon Pegg, that’s probably very true)

  14. There you go, talking dirty again, Daddy’s gonna have to chastise you. But you love it, don’cha?

    Godfrey Elfwick, Carmen Fishwick, do I detect a certain, resonance, shall we say?

  15. BobR,

    I look forward to seeing all those 3rd wave feminists showing solidarity ang entering via the women’s entrance and being confined to separate areas.

  16. A tweet has the ability to catapult an important issue from obscurity into public consciousness, and inform news agendas around the world. Tilting the balance of power is arguably social media’s most valuable asset.

    Ah, the battle-cry of every lazy, unfocused, self-important and ineffectual jerk-off alive today.

  17. Support feminists? Rather like supporting Democrats or Republicans.

    The point it seems to me is to support the policy that you find most logical, workable, and agreeable.

    The point is not to slavishly support some faction just because of its name.

    Just sayin’

  18. “Men, women and children of all faiths and none will be welcome”

    Will those who worship at the Altar of Bacon be welcome?

  19. Carmen Fishwick? Carmen Fucking Fishwick?

    That’s a joke, right?

    If it isn’t I could make one up fairly quickly…

  20. There are times when different languages or dialects seem more apposite somehow.

    In Scots, the heading to this would be:

    Err, why would we want to hen?

    I think hen sounds more appropriate in this case than, for example, a Yorkshire “duck”.

  21. SMFS

    “So did I. Until Trump. Now I have to admit they are kind of right.”

    You are confusing the medium with a particular messenger. And, in any event, Trump demeans his office by using Twatter.

  22. Lionel Ebb,

    I really want the BBC to bow to this nonsense. None of the women complaining will watch if they put a woman in the job, and the lads that watch Dr Who might quit.

    The whole dynamic of Dr Who is this simple: a nerdy science guy that boys want to be, and an assistant as a proxy for the audience, to be the human there. And it’s a young woman to keep the Dads from turning over 😉

  23. Theophrastus – “You are confusing the medium with a particular messenger. And, in any event, Trump demeans his office by using Twatter.”

    The message and the medium are inseparable in this case. Trump demeans the office by being Trump. Twitter’s got nothing to do with it. George H W Bush could have used it with no problems. FDR did his fireside chats. Trump would demean the office doing those too.

    Bloke in Wiltshire – “The whole dynamic of Dr Who is this simple: a nerdy science guy that boys want to be”

    Until the Hipsters took over. The new Doctor Who has little interest to its traditional audience. It has been taken over by the usual BBC writers and used to push their “edgy”, urban, effeminate metrosexual garbage.

    Personally I am holding out for a female James Bond.

  24. SMFS,

    Oh, don’t get me started on the hideously overrated Steven Moffat, a man that writes stuff that stupid people think is intelligent, rather than just a bunch of cheap writing tricks.

    I watched a couple of bits of BBC TV entertainment tonight and the standard was really shocking. I don’t know if it’s gotten worse or just that I’ve been over in the new world of Amazon and Netflix for so long that I forgotten how dire it was.

  25. How about…by letting them have their own newspaper (or two), having an hour of propaganda every day on the major national radio station and taking over the editorial agenda of all major television stations? Oh, wait….

  26. @Noel Soper: “Posted with a picture of Emily Maitlis on Newsnight.”

    Who denies running any CIA torture sites.

    But then, she would deny it, wouldn’t she? *sceptical face*

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