Polly’s rather talking it up isn’t she?

For Ukip the stakes could not be higher. Lose here and the party is well and truly dead: its new leader, and its candidate here, Paul Nuttall buried on his first outing. Byelections are the great hope of insurgent parties, when voters can indulge in risk-free protest. No seat could be riper than this Brexit hotspot, where almost 70% voted leave: Stoke perfectly matches this week’s BBC research showing the closest correlation between high Brexit areas and low education qualifications.

Only the idiots vote for Brexit says that last line.

Not beating Labour in a seat which has been Labour since creation in 1950 (and one of the constituent parts was Labour back before 1910 as well) would be most disappointing but not a disaster.

But then, you know, Polly, shape expectations, all that.

36 comments on “Polly’s rather talking it up isn’t she?

  1. Insurgent parties thrive on the absence of electoral success. Well, up to a point. It’s when they start winning elections that voters start to ask what’s the point of them.

  2. Lose here and the party is well and truly dead

    Dare to dream!

    Stoke perfectly matches this week’s BBC research showing the closest correlation between high Brexit areas and low education qualifications.

    Odd then that Polly dislikes them so. Seeing as she has a single A level and not much more. Failed her Eleven Plus. Didn’t finish her soft Oxford degree.

    Still she did stand for the Social Democrats. And lost. They folded five years later. So there is that.

  3. Stoke perfectly matches this week’s BBC research showing the closest correlation between high Brexit areas and low education qualifications.

    You can imagine the scented handkerchief held under her nose as she dictated that to her secretary at her villa in Umbria.

  4. If only idiots vote for Brexit, you’d have to be a cretin to vote Labour after reading that article.

    Her default position these days is patrician sneering at the untermensch for refusing to do as they’re told.

  5. I do (blimey, are those four horsemen approaching) agree with Polly Toynbee here. Stoke-on-Trent central is in UKIP’s top 10 marginals, and the 4th marginal against Labour. And Corbyn is utterly fucking useless as leader. If they can’t take a seat here, in a by-election when people are more likely to vote outside the 2 main parties (because it doesn’t decide the government) it probably is all over.

  6. Yeah, but UKIP is first and foremost a protest movement. And it’s supporters mostly understand that, that it’s purpose is to tilt the scales. Look what Nige achieved without ever holding British elected office.

  7. Stoke perfectly matches this week’s BBC research showing the closest correlation between high Brexit areas and low education qualifications.

    But aren’t education qualifications strongly influenced by relative poverty or prosperity (at least, according to the Grauniad)? It wouldn’t be very surprising to find those doing quite nicely, thank you under the current regime are less likely to vote for change.

  8. “But aren’t education qualifications strongly influenced by relative poverty or prosperity (at least, according to the Grauniad)? It wouldn’t be very surprising to find those doing quite nicely, thank you under the current regime are less likely to vote for change.”

    Its interesting that the BBC recently have been pushing the concept of ‘the Leave vote was by the uneducated’ via their analysis of the voting patterns released by local authorities. Normally when any measure of social deprivation is mentioned there is a parallel cry for ‘something to be done’, the the State of course. Yet in these articles, nothing. No mention how perhaps we should listen to these people who are suffering and do as they ask to alleviate their plight. No, just the implication that the Leave voters were all morons (and old to boot) and therefore they should be ignored.

    Its all highly indicative of how the Left really think about equality. Everyone is equal until they go off reservation, then they are the untermenschen.

  9. Interesting that she is happy to go into print with her contempt for her constituency quite so clearly expressed. She is a loathsome, ivory-towered, sneering PoS.

    As to Polly “taking it”, frankly even the thought of her taking it the natural way makes me want to heave.

  10. It’s an incredibly snobbish line of argument. You could have spent years dealing with the practical effects of the EU, but if you happened to have left school at 16 you are less capable of assessing its merits (according to this view) than a 22 year old with a Media Studies degree from an ex-poly.

  11. If only idiots vote for Brexit, you’d have to be a cretin to vote Labour after reading that article.

    And she has also blundered into the self-set elephant trap of describing Labour voters as idiots.

    That’s the way to get them back, Pols! Call them thick twats from the safety of your Umbrian villa!

  12. It is the Guardian

    And the Times, the FT, the BBC, Private Eye, thanks to that bore Hislop, etc…..

  13. Doesn’t the Labour candidate have a history of anti-Corbyn tweeting? Given that Jezza would probably go down well in a traditional Labour constituency such as Stoke, how is the Party going to handle the tension? Especially since the candidate seems to share Polly’s views on the population of the place.

  14. Stoke perfectly matches this week’s BBC research showing the closest correlation between high Brexit areas and low education qualifications.

    Picking up wot Chris Miller and Jim said;

    If low education qualifications are, in some sense, a predictor of employment type or wage level, then high Brexit areas could equally be described as high unemployment areas or low wage areas, or unskilled employment areas, or areas most at risk of suffering from inequality. Take your pick.

    In which case, a Remain vote is a massive “fuck you, I’m alright Jack”.

    Yeah, the Left aren’t really covering themselves in glory here.

  15. Rocco’s Pollyfilla is not getting many downloads. Perhaps I should rename it Rocco’s Pollydicks, that babe took a lot of filling!

  16. “Given that Jezza would probably go down well in a traditional Labour constituency such as Stoke”

    Well, no, Jezza doesn’t. Because while he’s all more communism, he combines that with ridiculous Guardian kumbayah perspectives on things like security/religion of peace. And that doesn’t go down well at all. Council by-election results in working class, non-urban Labour areas have been a disaster.

  17. I love all of the bluster about Trump/Brexit voters being thick. My only concern is that the volume of the collective scream of YEAH BUT REASONS when someone does the analysis after the next big U.K. election will knock the planet off its axis.

  18. “Peter Coates is known as Mr Stoke: the owner of Stoke City FC, chairman of the huge online betting company Bet365 (which is Stoke’s biggest employer), Labour through and through, and a champion of the city’s regeneration. Can he help to fight off Ukip’s threat to Stoke’s reputation?”

    And when this bi-election is kvery Polly and the other nannies will go back to telling us that online gambling is very bad for us and our betters will need to legislate to protect us from ourselves. In the meantime, he’s a local Socialist hero; nothing bad to say about his business at all.

  19. The Social Democrats still exist, they had a councillor in Bridlington until last year, until the seat was taken by UKIP.

    One of the rarest election result summaries ever seen. UKIP gain from SDP. 😀

  20. She has a point. Brexit now being Conservative policy, the only viable future for UKIP is as representatives of the common man, the role Labour were founded for but have abandoned. That means firstly taking seats off Labour, such that Labour is seen as having no hope of forming a government, then taking anti-Socialist votes from the Conservatives. If they don’t make some progress soon they will fade away.
    I think they will win at least one of the upcoming by-elections though.
    BTW for least educated read least indoctrinated.

  21. @Pat: “Brexit now being Conservative policy, the only viable future for UKIP is as representatives of the common man, the role Labour were founded for but have abandoned.”

    The only viable future for UKIP is to become Blue Labour or the British Workers’ Party, something that seems quite likely.

  22. What no headache tonight for the divine Ms Abbott? I wonder if Rocco is planning to include her in his next movie….. Rocco’s Pollycock? I can barely imagine the contortions that might be required

  23. The top picture is captioned:
    Nigel Farage at Ukip’s Stoke Central campaign office. ‘For Ukip the stakes could not be higher. Lose here and the party is well and truly dead.’

    But … That quote starting For ukip wasn’t said by him, but by Polly! What a clever insinuation.

  24. Yep.

    This bit is classic:

    “I asked them what bit of democracy they didn’t like and then a woman holding a sign reading ‘strength in diversity’ told me to ‘go home’.

    Lefties.

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