Parliament is sovereign of course

The amendment that had the most potential to cause chaos for the Government was clause 43, tabled by the Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron, which called for a second public referendum before Brexit finally happens.

The Prime Minister has already agreed that Parliament will get a vote on the final deal before it goes to the European Parliament for ratification, but Mr Farron had argued that a referendum on the deal was vital to stop Britain going “over the cliff”.

Just 33 MPs backed Mr Farron’s proposal as the amendment was crushed by a majority of 307.

Still the Lords to go of course but given that Parliament really is sovereign that would seem to be the end of that, no?

Unless, and perish the very thought of it, sovereign is here meant to mean “doing as I wish”.

15 comments on “Parliament is sovereign of course

  1. So people who have been saying parliament is sovereign and these matters shouldn’t be decided by referenda, now wants a second referendum rather than leaving the matter to parliament?

  2. “Argle bargle Parliament must decide, the referendum was only advisory”.

    parliament decides

    “Argle bargle we need a second referendum”.

    How’s about a nice steamy hot cup of STFU already,

  3. Unless, and perish the very thought of it, sovereign is here meant to mean “doing as I wish”.

    A more philosophical point – I have noticed in the US lately that “qualified” and “knows about xyz” now mean “agrees with the left”.

  4. Hopefully the Lords adds a wrecking amendment and we get to be rid of two undemocratic institutions for the price of one.

  5. “Parliament was Sovereign” was a useful tactic, nothing more. They have the same contempt for Parliament they had when they were in power.

    Next, the Lords, and after that, or simultaneously, guerilla attacks by activist judges in the courts.

  6. We should take this repellent hobbit, hang him up by his toenails and take turns to slam a baseball bat into his cock-gobbler face to rectify the overbite jaw and buck teeth that the NHS did not fix for him

  7. Under the Salisbury Convention, the Lords doesn’t prevent the enactment of legislation that the government promised in its manifesto. The Tories promised in their manifesto to implement the result of the referendum -“whatever the outcome”.

    Will the peers follow the Salisbury Convention? In 2005, the Limp Dicks said they would not abide by it – because of falling voter turnout and the low share of the vote obtained by the government. (It’s hard to see how that would justify unelected peers vetoing government legislation; but opportunism and incoherence are Limp Dick specialities).

  8. It will be wonderful seeing the people who wanted to abolish the HoL as an undemocratic anachronism suddenly start defending it as the last bastion of democracy.

  9. It’s funny. When I was campaigning for Leave, people tried to counter my statements about the evils of the unelected commission by saying the HoL was as bad if not worse.

    My response was always “we’ll get to that, one problem at a time”.

    I haven’t changed my tune but all of a sudden, they’ve come round 180 degrees. It’s almost as if they only support democracy when it suits them.

  10. “It will be wonderful seeing the people who wanted to abolish the HoL as an undemocratic anachronism suddenly start defending it as the last bastion of democracy.”

    Yet more evidence that Brexit and Trump have created a distortion in the space time continuity and catapulted us in to a parallel universe where the left talk about the benefits of free trade, the rule of law and parliamentary democracy, whilst the Tories talk about industrial policies.

  11. Given article 50 only allows you to change your mind if everyone else agrees to let you then once it’s triggered voting on the final deal is pointless as your leaving anyway. It’s why I felt the calls for the govt to brief parliament had some validity, though there’s the concern of telling the other side in a negotiation what your strategy is before you start to be balanced out

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