Disagreement is bullying

It’s been interesting to note the reaction in the comments section. Seemingly orchestrated by Tim Worstall (who seems only able to write about me in the last day or so), many of those who regularly populate his Alt-Right comments section, which is notable for its aggressive offensiveness, have taken to maligning, squealing in their delight at being able to do so and highlighting the fact that I routinely block far-right, usually male, deeply offensive aggressiveness from the comments section of this blog precisely because my belief in fees speech makes it a necessity to do so.

Bullying and freedom cannot co-exist. It is something they have not noticed.

Others have though. I was discussing the phenomena of online aggression with an MEP yesterday. They said online aggression was something they had been forced to get used to as a result of their work, but it made it no less unpleasant. They also wondered if awareness of such aggression put many off standing for office. I think it might. In that case these people’s fight against freedom and liberty may have a deeply undesirable consequence. And that just reinforces my own determination to give them no air time. My deeply libertarian instincts demand that I don’t.

73 comments on “Disagreement is bullying

  1. My deeply libertarian instincts demand that I don’t

    His WHAT?!!

    I assume they are buried very, very deeply indeed, as his entire persona comes across as an intolerant authoritarian who wants the State to micromanage everyone’s lives.

    That tirade has everything you need to know to understand him. The thin skin. The messianic complex. The absolute intolerance of any opposing view and the deep insecurity that drives it.

  2. “I routinely block far-right, usually male, deeply offensive aggressiveness from the comments section of this blog precisely because my belief in fees (sic) speech makes it a necessity to do so…”
    “My deeply libertarian instincts.”
    Wow. You couldn’t make it up.

  3. Love how he’s run back to his own heavily censored echo chamber to attempt his pathetic self justification. Wanker

  4. So, licking his wounds, he returns to the safety of his blog with its heavily censored comments and his adoring sycophants. He’s hurting.

    Are many – any? – people here Alt-Right? I don’t see any anti-semitism or references to (((jews))) or marked hostility to gays. Sure, feminism is mocked, and Trump often defended here. But Alt-Righters tend to be deeply authoritarian, and few on here fit that description. Spud is trying to ‘demonise’ anyone who disagrees with him.

  5. many of those who regularly populate his Alt-Right comments section, which is notable for its aggressive offensiveness

    I am offended by that. I am the only person here who could in all fairness be called even close to Alt-Right (still better than the Ctl Left!) and hence have a near monopoly on offensive aggressiveness. The rest of you are, candidly, soft and squishy liberals.

    And yet I have never been banned by Ritchie. As far as I know, I am still free to post there under this handle.

    (Not that I am proud, it is actually shameful, but it is also true)

  6. As Theophrastus notes, his modds is to return behind his own walls where he is safe from disagreement. “A veritable flounce” was the description offered on The Conversation.

    Has that publication ever experienced a more pathetic exhibition?

  7. “many of those who regularly populate his Alt-Right comments section, which is notable for its aggressive offensiveness”
    –A Fat Marxian Commissar

    “I have not yet begun to fight”–John Paul Jones.

  8. Be an interesting conversation or debate between Murphy and Voltaire*, maybe with Aristotle moderating.

    I understand the “I may not like what you say” quote is misattributed and it was not Voltaire who said it.

  9. The line about your “Alt-Right comments section” raised an eyebrow, but I really wasn’t prepared for the revelation of Mr Murphy’s hitherto unguessed-at “deeply libertarian instincts.”

  10. Is it time to start complaining to that publication or the university about Prof Murphy and how he is bringing City into disrepute?

  11. So he leaves one site in a flounce and turns up in the safety of his own site to scream at his tormentors.

    What would be an appropriate title for his post?

    How about “The Fight Starts Here”.

  12. Is it time to start complaining to that publication or the university about Prof Murphy and how he is bringing City into disrepute?

    Given the large number of shysters employed by City (eg Connie St Louis), your chances of satisfaction there may be slim.

  13. Be an interesting conversation or debate between Murphy and Voltaire*, maybe with Aristotle moderating.

    The debate would start with a bewildered Voltaire saying “Oo ees this ignorant tool?” and Aristotle shrugging.

  14. His emotive referral to graduate debts being sold as “debt slavery” seemed to spark the response.

    Those commentators might be interested to know that he somewhat ironically once wrote in support of his friend Colin Hines and his views on restricting the movement of labour. He proposed that qualified Romanian doctors should be barred from working in the UK and indeed anywhere outside Romania until they had provided sufficent service to the Romanian health system to repay the sums invested in their training.

  15. Has he had a brain scan recently? If not, I suggest the GP missus gets one done.

    Here’s some earlier blog titles:

    Tax Research UK » The dangers of a libertarian view
    Tax Research UK » The libertarian threat to society
    Tax Research UK » This is why I take on the libertarians
    Tax Research UK » Naming libertarians for what they are

  16. “And that just reinforces my own determination to give them no air time. My deeply libertarian instincts demand that I don’t.”
    Comedy gold.

  17. We are Alt-Right. Anyone whose political views don’t correspond to the major parties is, by definition, an alternative.

    It’s a very broad label though, encompassing anyone from Bill Clinton and Tony Blair (considered right-wing in their day) to Trump and UKIP. There’s no single definition of Alt-Right, despite the media’s on-going attempts to find one.

  18. “Alt-right” is just the term of the day. Ritchie just uses it as abuse they way he used to brand people as “neoliberals” or, er, libertarians.

  19. ““Alt-right” is just the term of the day”

    Yes, it might as well be “poopy pants” for all the significance of it. It is a juvenile “you are not us” spasm, nothing more.

  20. “That tirade has everything you need to know to understand him. The thin skin. The messianic complex. The absolute intolerance of any opposing view and the deep insecurity that drives it.”

    Very well put, Rob.

  21. ‘I was discussing the phenomena of online aggression with an MEP yesterday. They said’

    They? THEY?

    I assume he didn’t want to say, “She.”

    There I go, deplorable bullying again.

  22. “Alt-right”

    Isn’t it just “far left” fight back against terms such as “dripping lefties” and similar?

    And then, once it’s seen as sufficiently “evil”, start to use it routinely for anything “right of Corbyn”…

    I like the “Ctrl Left” tag, that one of you introduced as a response to it.

  23. Diogenes: I guess he is gratified to have the support of Anton Ackermann. Seeing that name gave me a frisson

    I think that support should read support

  24. Sometimes terms intended as insults morph into marks of honour etc. So with Alt-Right, I may have little idea of its intended original designation, but if the Ctrl-Left want to fling it about I won’t mind if it sticks on me.
    Me: a conservative anarchist.

  25. This was the best vignette from the comments section of that blog

    ‘I do not think they have any claim at all to be libertarian

    I have

    And so do you

    I don’t care if it provokes them: they are consistently wrong in just about everything’

    Given This is between Murphy and Ivan Horrocks it suggests they both need sectioning for their own health as well as that of the wider community. Horrocks is not far short of an advocate of mass murder and is one of the most odious individuals in public life. Murphy is not much better.

    As Noel says ‘Alt right’ joins’ neoliberal’ and ‘troll’ as terms used by him without understanding – I think it was one of the blokes who came up with a guide to Murphy’s expressions on here – I will try and upload it later on…..

  26. Of the female UK members of the European Parliament PANA Committee, the two likeliest candidates for a chat with Ritchie are Molly Scott Cato of the Greens and Anneliese Dodds of Labour. I think we can safely rule out the Conservatives’ Kay Swinburne, and my money is on Ms Cato.

  27. Ironman

    I might trawl the site for that – it’s one of the posts that show he is openly fascistic at times. Oddly he makes the classic error of equating the Italian state under Mussolini with Germany under Hitler. The latter is the Nazi state. Fascist refers to the former.

    Incidentally, does anyone know where the troll known as ‘Arnald’ or ‘Lawrence from Guernsey’ went – haven’t seen him in years. Also, nothing about the commentators on this blog’s inadequacy from DBC Reed either. Guess either the bot program running him is down for maintenance or he and Carol Wilcox remain in Pyongyang.

  28. Alt-right simply means conservatives who refuse to be cowed by slanderous accusations of racism, and also acknowledges the fact that the statement,”all people are or should be equal” is utter horseshit.

    The right has retreated with its tail between its legs for the last thirty years every time some deranged leftie twat shouts racism.

    No more. Fuck em.

  29. Diogenes

    He does, doesn’t he – but in fairness if you had ventured out into public debate for the first time in three years and had you clock cleaned you might be as well.

    Andrew K

    I would guess it is Molly Scott Cato – a well known scion of stultifying political correctness who I am presuming gets a fair degree of abuse…..

  30. It’s a common enough meme. If you disagree with someone with a degree of vigour then you are bullying them or denying them their freedom of speech.

    Idiots!

  31. Spud is still getting hammered over there.

    Btw, one purpose of his TRUK post this morning was clearly to let his attack dogs loose. Interestingly, there are a few deleted posts under his critics’ posts, which suggests to me that his supporters were somewhat intemperate.

    All good fun!

  32. progressive protectionism

    Leftist technique #17: when you favour a policy but that policy is remarkably close to a policy supported by the Right, prefix it with the word “Progressive” but otherwise leave completely unchanged. Hey presto, it’s no longer the same thing at all!

  33. I love further evidence that Murphy is a goldfish:

    Remember this proud boast:

    ‘It takes three things to succeed. One is knowledge. The second is willing. The third is a thick skin’

    Guess to adapt a quote from Meatloaf:

    ‘Don’t feel sad…. Don’t feel sad, cos’ one out of three ain’t bad…..’

  34. “My deeply libertarian instincts …”

    Somehow I don’t think Simon Gibbs will be inviting him to be a guest speaker at one of Libertarian Home’s events. I’d pay to see it, though,

  35. PF
    Did you mean “we’re merely all right”.
    Be careful. Any more jokes like that and you could be locked in a room with a loaded revolver and a bottle of whisky.

  36. BTW I didn’t come up with Ctrl-Left, I merely introduced it to this parish. I saw it first at Instapundit.

    I guess if a certain culture can claim the number zero, algebra and all sorts of other things, I’ve got more claim to “inventing” Ctrl-Left :p

  37. Savours the bottle of Lagavulin – thanking thee kindly, good sir – and blasts the lock to smithereens…

    Irritatingly “always right”?

  38. This is my first comment, ever, on Tim’s blog, which I’ve been reading from the shadows for a long time. I just wanted to pop in to say this is not an Alt-Right blog.

  39. “Ctrl-Left makes it onto the other place!”

    Nicely played…

    Elsewhere on his Libertarian thread, Richard claims that, in one of the deleted comments (at the Conversation), he was “described as a Nazi”.

    I think he may be “exaggerating” (I was following the comments closely and regularly) but happy to be corrected. Did anyone else see that? It’s not something I would have forgotten if I had spotted it?

  40. I burst out laughing when a certain George Fox quoted some of the Fat One’s previous statements about libertarianism at him and was rounded on for offering nothing but abuse. You really could not make it up. Perhaps he will write a post tomorrow about his deeply-held Buddhist opinions.

  41. Then I’ll “unscrew the nails” (Sugar Apprenctice style of course), and offer the whisky to the guard (poor chap is most likely innocent – probably doesn’t deserve any trouble).

    OK, that’s cheating. So I’ll soak the door in whisky (if I can’t drink it), burn it down, and then walk out. And keep the revolver in case someone tries again……

  42. “I was discussing the phenomena of online aggression with an MEP yesterday.”
    Good news for any newly-single retired accountants from south of the river who may be reading this in the comfort of their recently-acquired East Anglian starter homes: M**** S**** C*** MEP is a Quaker, and doesn’t appear to be married (although she does have three sprogs in tow).
    Now’s your chance lad!

  43. ‘It takes three things to succeed. One is knowledge. The second is willing. The third is a thick skin’

    “The second is willing” makes no sense at all.

  44. I was discussing the phenomena of online aggression with an MEP yesterday.

    Did you candidly ban her because she could add nothing further to the debate (she was pwning you?).

    “Molly Scott Cato” – any relation? Murphy delenda est?

  45. Simply for using “phenomena” as a singular noun he should be given a tremendous hoofing in the knackers.

  46. Theophrastus – “abacab came up with Ctrl-left, as I’m sure SMFS would be the first to admit.”

    I don’t know. I am a pretty petty sort of guy. Undeserved credit is the best credit of all.

    But in this case I have to admit I did not think it up. I saw it on the net somewhere. Perhaps Ace of Spades.

  47. Bloke in Wales – “Given the large number of shysters employed by City (eg Connie St Louis), your chances of satisfaction there may be slim.”

    I believe Ms St Louis has been terminated by City.

    Still a joke of a university though.

  48. Flubber – “Alt-right simply means conservatives who refuse to be cowed by slanderous accusations of racism, … No more. Fuck em.”

    +10

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