51 comments on “Wondrous

  1. Looking at the comments section, the article gets a right kicking for stupidity and the Graun’s obsession with wacism.

    And if it’s an attempt to be controversial to sell newspapers it just isn’t working is it? “Comment is free” and fewer people buy the paper every week.

    Maybe every edition is competing for that ‘longest suicide note in history’ tag?

  2. Attention whores don’t like anything drawing attention away from their attention whoring.

    The Academy sold out this year. They promoted political correctness over any pretense they were awarding good films. Fine. Their audience will probably keep it in mind.

  3. A commenter makes a good point about what if the mix up had been the other way around, scenes on stage of some crackers snatching the gold out of dusky hands…

    Ps La La Land really isn’t that good and the two leads can’t sing or dance.

  4. Surely she’s right? The 2017 oscars were all about promoting African Americans, regardless of merit, to correct a perceived bias in favour of whitey last year.

  5. I’m perfectly prepared to accept Moonlight was the best film of the year, but that’s not why it won.

    I haven’t seen either film because Moonlight sounds worthy and dull and even glowing reviews of La La Land mentioned it lacked good numbers and that neither lead could sing or dance much.

  6. “The Academy sold out this year. They promoted political correctness over any pretense they were awarding good films. Fine. Their audience will probably keep it in mind.”

    The Academy have a history of that. Have you seen Spotlight? It’s a good film, but best film of 2015? It’s not in the same class as Ex Machina, Inside Out, Sicario or The Big Short. But it is about Catholic priests abusing children, so it won best film.

    I can’t comment on Moonlight. I haven’t seen it. But, the Academy’s history means I don’t really trust their results.

  7. The best conspiracy theory about the Oscars I’ve heard was that the mix up was intentional to stop the media reporting the anti-Trump speeches. 🙂

  8. Arthur the Cat: “The best conspiracy theory about the Oscars I’ve heard was that the mix up was intentional to stop the media reporting the anti-Trump speeches. “

    Because the MSM have a finite amount of space to host this news… in 2017.

  9. Best comment on that thread (before the mods went home for cocoa) by Frances56:

    “Next Year Oscars 2018: Everyone gets a golden participation trophy! Yay!”

  10. Unlikely with a leftist prick like Beatty but for one second I hoped it was deliberate sabotage to spit in the eye of race-baiting hucksters everywhere.

  11. The Oscars mix-up matters because this night was always about racial bias

    As other comments have already pointed out, she is right but in a completely unintended way. It was about racial bias.

  12. Jack C – “Whatever, well done PwC.”

    My faith in the health of Western capitalism has been greatly strengthened by the fact that one of the major Accounting firms couldn’t hand out some envelopes in the correct order.

  13. @JackC

    The only conspiracy that I’m inclined to buy into is that PWC did this to improve their corporate image

  14. Ha! Good point John Square.

    PwC can’t be as anything like as bad as it might appear. I guess we only hear the bad news.

    However, we all know how this would have worked:

    1) Proposal & Preparation stage

    Several very high-ranking PwC partners flying to LAX at eye-watering cost. Reassuringly expensive though.

    2) Actual Delivery

    One bright young 20 something, his or her fine mind as yet unsullied by real life, and two school leavers.

  15. It’s all right – Ritchie has decided to make out that it’s all to do with the Big 4’s dominance and tax dodging. His “when I was the senior partner of a firm of chartered accountants” pomposity is breathtaking

  16. Jack C,

    “1) Proposal & Preparation stage

    Several very high-ranking PwC partners flying to LAX at eye-watering cost. Reassuringly expensive though.

    2) Actual Delivery

    One bright young 20 something, his or her fine mind as yet unsullied by real life, and two school leavers.”

    Haha. Same with software. Always funny to hear stories about companies who bought into large consultancies only to find that they replaced the 2 experienced guys after a month with Ashok and Raj straight out of Bangalore Uni.

  17. @Flatcap Army.

    There were two other partners and 10 staff.

    I’ve worked in a bigger tax department of a regional office of a firm outside the big 4.

  18. This comment from Marc Wolston is good –

    “That is weapons grade stupidity right there.

    God this paper makes me despair, it really is hard to consider yourself a liberal when your supposed side comes out with utter shite like this.”

    In any normal business Suzanne Moore would be asked to take a long unpaid sabbatical, and be recommended not to come back

  19. @AndrewC – frankly I take exception to your neoliberal trolling; the fact remains that he WAS the very very important senior partner of a very very important firm of accountants and is IN NO WAY a tinpot quasi-fascist with delusions of grandeur.

  20. stories about companies who bought into large consultancies

    Us too, though in a counter-intuitive march forward we’ve taken Ashok and Raj and put them in Eastern Europe.

    Apparently very cheap, but if you can’t measure output I’m not sure how this conclusion can be reached.

    We should get some consultants in to work it all out.

  21. “Ps La La Land really isn’t that good and the two leads can’t sing or dance.”

    I think it’s the best live action musical film since The Blues Brothers, although that’s not a particularly high bar. To be honest, the only other live action musical I’ve liked since then was Sunshine on Leith. But it’s not in the same class as those great old MGM ones, Frozen or South Park.

  22. Moulin Rouge was at least entertaining and the leads did a fair job of the singing.

    The world is missing someone who can dance like Gene Kelly.

  23. It was very odd. Beatty obviously realised he had the wrong envelope but was too stupid to know what to do, such as tell the crowd that he had the wrong envelope, or walk off stage to get the right one. Dunaway was too stupid to realise that she was looking at the card for Best Actress. It allowed Trump to make sarc about stupid luvvies. It totally undermined the crass compère. You wonder if the luvvies who applauded the whinging Iranian are aware of the visa policies of Iran

  24. Magnusw,

    “The world is missing someone who can dance like Gene Kelly.”

    Those people went into pop music, mostly: Madonna, Michael Jackson, Britney Spears etc.

    Musicals went downhill as recorded music took off. Songwriters didn’t need musicals to get rich.

  25. ” What some people saw in this mistake was again a cultural bias against black art, unconscious though it may be. Some saw a conspiracy. Some saw the biggest award of the night undermined. This is hardly a paranoid reading when we keep seeing award ceremonies where black artists lose – Adele winning best album over BeyoncĂ© at the Grammys, or the debacle of the Brits which has grime artists perform as though domesticated pets but will not reward them.”

    Didn’t you bigots know that all Awards have to go to non-White people now?

  26. Jonathan – “This is hardly a paranoid reading when we keep seeing award ceremonies where black artists lose – Adele winning best album over BeyoncĂ© at the Grammys”

    Adele is a better artist than Mrs Carter. Even if Mrs Carter has, for now, the better ar$e.

  27. How wonderful if this were to mark the end of Hollywood’s dominance of popular culture. It’s been downhill all the way since the business’s sole genius, Buster Keaton. Or maybe I’ll be a softie and allow Fred Astaire. But otherwise largely crap.

  28. “Didn’t you bigots know that all Awards have to go to non-White people now?”

    It may be politically incorrect to say, but why are so many hugely successful, black artists so riddled with inferiority complexes?

  29. @Flubber

    “It may be politically incorrect to say, but why are so many hugely successful, black artists so riddled with inferiority complexes?”

    I think it’s because the left in the US is so wedded to the idea of ‘Institutional Racism’/ ‘Sexism’/ ‘Islamophobia’ etc (pick one or all that you think apply), that if a non-White Male doesn’t win an award, or an election for that matter, it can only be because of bigotry and hatred, not lack of talent or being a vile c**t.

  30. “I have yet to meet anyone who has seen any of the films that were nominated for best picture.”

    I’ve seen H hacksaw Ridge. Its a great film and an Honorable homage to faith. Directed by Mel Gibson.

    So it had fuck all chance of winning.

  31. Dennis the Peasant,

    “I have yet to meet anyone who has seen any of the films that were nominated for best picture.”

    I’ve seen La La Land and Arrival. Arrival is excellent. Film of the year of what I’ve seen, and one of my favourite films of the decade. And I like La La Land a great deal. It’s a big, colourful fun musical that channels a lot of old musicals, but at the same time, is a twist on them.

    I’ll catch most of the rest on streaming, but I’m in no hurry. I’ve seen enough Oscar bait films to know that most of them aren’t worth shelling money out for.

  32. @Bloke in Wiltshire, February 28, 2017 at 11:37 am

    To be honest, the only other live action musical I’ve liked since then was Sunshine on Leith.

    Interesting one. Every male I know enjoyed it; every female I know didn’t.

    I doubt “A musical for men” was the director’s intention.

  33. How long has Les Mis been running? Or the Abba one, or the Queen one, or Jersey Boys? Stage musicals are all the rage. They run TV shows to cast stage musicals, including a to-be-written show about a boy band, music by Gary Barlow. You guys are not down with the kids. SMFS is only down with the gangstas

  34. “I have yet to meet anyone who has seen any of the films that were nominated for best picture.”

    I guess the social circle is restricted in the State Pen

  35. If I want a musical, I put on An American In Paris. Gene Kelly and Leslie Caron could dance rings around anyone and Kelly could actually sing… which, from what little I’ve read about LLL, puts them three up on Gosling and Stone.

    And where did they come up with the idea of Gosling and Stone in the first place? Neither appear to have much in the way of experience singing and dancing in theatre or on film. Were Vin Diesel and Megan Fox already booked?

    Why watch a film faking Hollywood’s Golden Age when you can watch the real thing?

    Besides, I’ve been to L.A. It’s about as romantic a backdrop as Detroit.

  36. Arrival really was an excellent film though the only one on the list I watched.
    I did notice that in the run up to the oscars every mention of the event the caption photo on the BBC site seemed to feature people of colour.

  37. Dennis the Peasant – “And where did they come up with the idea of Gosling and Stone in the first place?”

    I know my credentials as a hot-blooded heterosexual is about to take a hit, but perhaps they got the idea that singing was not important from Mama Mia? Yes, I have watched, well, most of it. It was awful. Middle aged female whore-ish emo-porn.

    However none of the male actors could sing worth a damn. Pierce Brosnan really can’t sing. He did it anyway. Top marks for bravery. Him and that Darcy bloke both. Women don’t seem to mind. Couldn’t dance either.

    Ryan and Stone seem the hot actors of the day. If the audience don’t care about the singing, why would it matter?

  38. Ryan and Stone seem the hot actors of the day.

    Emma Stone is about as sexy as an industrial drill press. She looks like she had a head-on collision with a Revlon tractor-trailer.

  39. DtP, so no one you know has seen a film on the Oscar shortlist. You self-describe yourself there as someone on the fringes of society. I look at the evidence and it seems that you have a very limited social circle or social life. And, thanks to Obama, lots of people live in jail in the USA. From your stated views and blind spots, you probably occupy a cell

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