Not quite I think, not quite

Unfortunately, most sex education is still passed between children themselves, taught by the “naughty” peers who seem to have found out more than anyone else. Or are pretending that they have.

Shock horror, the majority of cultural education happens between children.

Didn’t the Opies spend decades proving this very thesis?

Boasting has always been, and still seems to be for many boys, the beginning of proving that you are a proper man. Frequency, volume, conquest and size still matter to them. How are young men to understand women if they have never been taught to understand themselves, and the people teaching them have been taught even less?

There was one part that traditional sex education did in fact get right. Which was to teach young women what young men were like. So hormonally doped up they leak sperm from the eyeballs and will hump anything up to and including the garden gatepost as long as it doesn’t complain too much. Any form of sex education which doesn’t get over the point that this is something that rather needs to be dealt with, if not perhaps controlled, isn’t doing its job.

27 comments on “Not quite I think, not quite

  1. “Hopefully the new national curriculum mandatory sex education plans will bring about change for the better.”

    If that’s not the triumph of hope over experience, I don’t know what is!

  2. How are young men to understand women if they have never been taught to understand themselves, and the people teaching them have been taught even less?

    The problem is that this is the usual feminist/gutless White Knight nonsense. It is shaming boys for their feelings. Why shouldn’t boys boast? They learn about sex the same way they learn about a lot of things. But childish play. Which includes a lot of boasting. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with porn come to that. It is just a condensed form of male fantasy. There are religious reasons to object to it, but secular ones? I don’t see them.

    Which is the problem. Having abolished Christian restraint on sexuality, a lot of women and gutless men would like to reimpose it in some form. But why should the rest of us listen to them?

    Feminists have created a generation of herbivore men. Women don’t like them that much. We should ignore them and reject this sort of intellectual castration.

  3. We should have alcohol education like sex education, predicated on the fact that the kids are going to do it anyway, so it’s best to teach them to do it safely and in moderation.

  4. Ted S. – “We should have alcohol education like sex education, predicated on the fact that the kids are going to do it anyway, so it’s best to teach them to do it safely and in moderation.”

    Why not rape education? Murder lessons?

    There may be a case for sex education – although I suspect it is mostly Cultural Marxism these days moderating the earlier Eugenics – but I fail to see why alcohol should not be left to families.

  5. No-one, teacher or pupil, told me that climbing up a long rope in school gym would give me a stiffy. Nor did they tell me how to get down from the top – with my cock poking out a bulge in my shorts at an angle higher than 90 degrees – without embarrassment.

  6. BraveFart,

    IANAL, but I genuinely think your dilemma there falls into the “cannot be reasonably foreseen” part of the exemptions from negligence.

    JS

  7. BF>

    Kid in my school dropped from the top of the ropes and broke an ankle. Wouldn’t explain why he just let go. You have cast new light on the event 🙂

    As for sex ed, if they don’t teach what the clitoris is and how to find it, they shouldn’t be allowed to call it that. Sex ed should teach teenagers how to do it well, not try to put them off.

  8. What 70 year olds were or were not told about sex as kids, whilst interesting anecdotes, is neither here nor there. We do not have to worry about kids not finding out about sex.
    We have to worry about the next lot ideologues who want to make their mark in our children’s minds.
    I would take my chances with leaving it in the hands of parents. I.e parents have proven they know how to “do it” and have experiences of the consequences of doing it. Not so Primary school mistresses.

  9. They didn’t have sex education in my school (unless you count “don’t have sex till marriage”), but we did have a female PE teacher whose impressively contoured feminine topology was prominently displayed in glorious bas relief through her jogging trousers.

    I still think of her fondly.

  10. @John Square,

    At a certain age, absolutely anything (including nothing) can provoke a stiffy. In that sense, totally foreseeable…

  11. Dave – “As for sex ed, if they don’t teach what the clitoris is and how to find it, they shouldn’t be allowed to call it that. Sex ed should teach teenagers how to do it well, not try to put them off.”

    What the hell is wrong with you? Can you explain to me what the social good of finding a clitoris is? Why is it a matter of public policy? Why should we be paying for it?

    There may be some good in sexual education, I doubt it the way it is done, but sexual technique is something that can probably be left to the kiddies themselves. They need to know how to use a condom. How to put it in the right slot. That is about it. There is no public good in anything else.

  12. Tim Worstall – “Tsk, how heteronormative to think that there’s a right slot.”

    Well, I am an unreconstructed dinosaur I guess. But let’s take that as meaning the slot intended. So no one is trying to have children by inserting it in someone elses belly button.

    Frankly the more heteronormative sex ed is the better.

  13. What’s wrong with “Bucks have balls and Does don’t”?

    Correct rimming technique coming to a school near you, including practical demonstrations and an exam.

  14. Boasting has always been, and still seems to be for many boys, the beginning of proving that you are a proper man. Frequency, volume, conquest and size still matter to them.

    Yes, and a sign that a bloke has grown up is when this stuff ceases to matter. Quite a handy guide, actually. Sadly, feminists think all men continue to behave this way, probably because they rarely come into intimate contact with those who have grown up.

  15. SMFS>

    What social good would there be from people having better sex? Arguably, the majority of what’s wrong with the world would fix itself as a result.

  16. Wilhelm Reich now Dave?

    The theory—whatever its merits- was not reflected in its creator who was notoriously irascible, combative and stiff-necked.

  17. Tim Newman – “Yes, and a sign that a bloke has grown up is when this stuff ceases to matter.”

    Does it? Or do men just get more realistic about their lies, the effect, their plausibility etc? Does Donald Trump boast about his wives (and more creepily his daughter)?

    Dave – “What social good would there be from people having better sex? Arguably, the majority of what’s wrong with the world would fix itself as a result.”

    That is a particularly fatuous opinion. But what makes you think that government-run sex ed classes would achieve it? They can’t teach children to read and write. What is more it would be seized on by the SJWs and so most of the time would be spent, as Rob says, on rimming and the like.

    Also, of course, women’s problems with sex have to do with the status of their men. Not with their clitorii. If their men excited them by being dangerous, successful, and perhaps violent, they would be having orgasms. Telling men to work harder to help them is not going to help. It is just telling men to be more like those fat chicks who give blow jobs on the first date. Men are better off not caring in the slightest.

    Finally, you sought to raise your social standing among women and sackless men by shaming other men. That is despicable. Western men are doing fine in bed. They do not need lecturing. They do not need lecturing from Betas (to be nice) designed to impress feminists and other Betas.

  18. There’s definitely something lacking with education generally – this story caught my eye: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39266056

    Another teenager said: “When I went on my period I started taking time off school, because I didn’t know what was actually going on with my body. That made my attendance really low and I was getting in trouble.”

  19. Rational Anarchist,

    Two teenage girls spoke to BBC Radio Leeds about how they tried to cope without tampons, sanitary towels or pain relief.

    One of the girls said: “I didn’t get any money because my mum was a single parent and she had five mouths to feed.”

    I think I can see the problem.

  20. Does Donald Trump boast about his wives (and more creepily his daughter)?

    Are we suggesting that The Donald is actually a legitimate “grown up”?

    His public persona (which may be all flash and no trousers) certainly is suggestive that being very, very rich has meant that he has never had to.

  21. “There was one part that traditional sex education did in fact get right. Which was to teach young women what young men were like. So hormonally doped up they leak sperm from the eyeballs and will hump anything up to and including the garden gatepost as long as it doesn’t complain too much. Any form of sex education which doesn’t get over the point that this is something that rather needs to be dealt with, if not perhaps controlled, isn’t doing its job.”

    And any sex ed program that didn’t point out to boys that girls (and women) can be emotionally manipulative bitches who will quite happily trap a man in years of child support for a child he had no idea he was creating is also not doing its job.

    I won’t hold my breath though.

  22. I don’t get this “can’t afford sanitary protection” thing when you can get 33 towels for a pound at Asda.

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