Soapy Joe speaks out!

Here we are.

I’m proud to be with you. And I’m proud to have walked with you. And I’m proud to stand with you. And I’m proud to talk to you.

Because when we work together, when we share our wealth, we all prosper. When we live as a community, all our lives are better. When we stand together we are all protected.

Next week will also see the next step in our case to establish that Article 50 is just the beginning of a journey. We have new additions to a very powerful legal team. We will file our written case. We will seek a hearing date in June. Ireland has said it wants to discuss the way forward.

The Claimants – me along with three very brave politicians from the Green Party who came forward when no one else would – are bringing this action to give the people of this country a choice. A choice they must have. A democratic choice. To remain if they want to remain.

Whut? A referendum and an Act of Parliament are not democracy? As Ironman points out.

41 comments on “Soapy Joe speaks out!

  1. me along with three very brave politicians from the Green Party

    Go for it then, pitchforks in hand!

  2. To remain, if they want to remain

    Remain all you want, Soapy. There are 27 countries that will let you. The airport is thaddaway –>.

  3. I presume he doesn’t believe that if we bottled it (were able to bottle it) at the last minute we’d just go back to the status quo ante?

    If we did as he wants, we’d be in the position of a teenager who runs away from home after an argument, then comes back in tears when he runs out of money.

    Even if we weren’t forced to join the Euro we would have no power to oppose the further integration everyone else seems so keen on.

    Basically Maugham wants national humiliation and the death of this country as an independent power. And it’s not even clear why.

    There should be one day of the year where the general public are allowed, without punishment or retribution, to punch lawyers in the stomach.

  4. I love this: “WWWAAAHHHH the referendum is not binding, needs an act of parliament, we’ve got a parliamentary system”.
    Act of parliament duly passed.
    “WAAAAAHHHHHH undemocratic because reasons”.

  5. It’s not democracy if it’s what the peasantry wants Tim, that’s populism.

    Jolyon wants ‘OSP democracy’ and the untermensch scrubbing his scullery floor in silence.

  6. “A choice they must have. A democratic choice. To remain if they want to remain.”

    They do have that choice. All they need to do is carve out a little bit of territory for themselves and then apply for EU admission.

    They can stay in and the rest of the people can get out.

    But I bet if you asked them, not a single one of them has even thought about secession – and they’d freak out over the idea.

    After all, if you’re your own nation you can’t make demands-with-menaces for other people to do what you tell them to.

  7. Leaving aside Jolyon ‘ridiculously thin skin, his apparant belief that these massive decisions should be made not by the electorate but by courts is horrifying. I do agree with Lord Reed’s dissenting judgement at the Supreme Court; the courts have no competance to consider the issue of Royal Prerogative -v- Parliamentary Sovereignty. Interestingly he also remarked, quite pointedly,,that NEITHER party had introduced the argument. Jolyon wI’ll be outraged by the very suggestion.

    I know the meanings of democracy, theocracy, meritocracy, technocracy, even bureaucracy. What is the word though for ‘rule by lawyers’?

  8. — “Fight for your country. Fight for our children. Fight for our future.”

    Translation: ‘Fight democracy for your country. Fight democracy for our children. Fight democracy for our future.’

    — “Thank you.”

    Translation: ‘Sieg Heil’

  9. Fight for your country. Fight for our children. Fight for our future.

    Fight for your country (We are on the Left, we fucking hate our country)
    Fight for our children (We are on the Left, we didn’t have children to save Gaia)
    Fight for our future (As slaves of our rightful future colonial masters).

  10. It is time treason and sedition charges were handed out to active ReMainiacs.

    They won’t be convicted but they will be a lot less wealthy by the time it is all over.

    The “process is the punishment” has worked for cultural Marxism up to now. Time they had a taste of it themselves.

  11. @Ironman “What is the word though for ‘rule by lawyers’?”

    Doubt there is one (yet) but the Greek word for lawyer is δικηγόρος which in its Latin font is dikigoros so perhaps dikigocracy? Or maybe dikocracy would be more appropriate as we’d be ruled by dicks.

    Yes, I like dikocracy, which I hereby claim as the second word I have invented (after hemimate)

  12. Frankly not impressed. Not with the whinging patriarchal cvnt’s politics, but the way in which they are expressed – and that’s surprising.

    This is a barrister, a person whose trade is his skill with words, language and the way in which he constructs his arguments.

    A pound shop QC I think.

  13. So can anyone explain what the slightest difference a court judgement in Ireland will make?

  14. I think it just has to be filed somewhere in the EU and Ireland uses the common law (for the moment). My limited understanding of it is that it’s aimed at forcing the EU to say that Article 50 is reversible.

    Maugham’s belief is that Euroscepticism in this country is superficial and temporary. Once people see that Britain is a pathetic, feeble little country that can’t stand on its own feet like titans like New Zealand and Canada we’ll obediently beg the EU to take us back, even on much worse terms.

  15. Maugham’s belief is that Euroscepticism in this country is superficial and temporary.

    He needs to get out of London for a few days.

  16. “even on much worse terms.”

    I dunno, I guess for him being forced to join Schengen and the Euro would be seen as positives 😀

    Good luck getting that one past the electorate though, jo!

  17. I mean, his name’s even “Jolyon Maugham QC” fer fuckssake.

    That’s like something out of an Ealing comedy starring Alec Guinness.

  18. ‘A democratic choice.’

    The Left uses the Right’s terms, as recommended by Alinsky. Quite Orwellian.

  19. Given what Joe’s hourly rates are his democracy is open only to very rich people.

    And if you put “very rich” in front of “people” it suddenly becomes clear just what his true message is.

  20. Good luck getting that one past the electorate though, jo!

    The aim would be to get it around the electorate, not past. They have complete contempt for the electorate, and have demonstrated it innumerable times over the past nine months.

    Incredibly they still consider themselves to be ‘progressives’ and ‘democrats’ though. They must be really quite bonkers by now.

  21. Even Joey doesn’t have unlimited funds. I bet that by the time this comes to court he’s been transmogrified from plaintiff to barrister.

    Because they will lose, with costs. And may even be declared vexatious litigants.

    When you put on that curly wirly widgie you swear to uphold the law. i.e. Acts of Parliament.

    If they go outside the UK to a court (I hear Belarus is nice this time of year) then it means didly squat.

  22. Funny how they never wheel out actual EU leaders at these Remainer gatherings to stir the troops. Have Junker, Tusk or Vehofstadt been seen anywhere during the referendum or since? Even once? On Question Time?

  23. “Have Junker, Tusk or Vehofstadt been seen anywhere during the referendum or since? ”

    No – they were kept away, since it would have given lie to the “stay in and reform from the inside” position to bring out one of the “ever closer union” bods.

  24. More than anything, even than by what they write, you can tell these people are cunts by the way they write.

  25. “Because when we work together, when we share our wealth, we all prosper.”

    Is it just me that notices that all the people saying this sort of thing about trade are people who are not involved in global trade? It’s lawyers, Guardian journalists, greenie civil servants, historians, scientists, people who do work for the BBC. Their living is almost entirely national.

  26. Did we ever, seriously, consider letting most of the EU scumbags having fingers on our nuclear weapons. Krauts? Jeebus.

  27. “Because when we work together, when we share our wealth, we all prosper.”

    BiW, fair point, but I can’t even get past the idea of someone using this argument to make the case that brexiteers are idiots or lunatics. All a bit too Judean People’s Front.

  28. Bloke in Wiltshire
    March 30, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    Yes it’s amazing how quickly people who previously wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a trade deal and a parking ticket suddenly became experts.
    Even more remarkable were those who overnight fell in love with international trade after previously considering it a capitalist spawn of the devil carried out by fat cat scum.

  29. Oh yes. I remember the Anarchists praising the supranational EU and bearded, sandal-wearing Guardianistas telling us solemnly of warnings by Goldman Sachs.

  30. I see Soapy Joe practices the same attitude to comments he doesn’t like as Spud, as my comment didn’t make it through his moderation, despite being non sweary and non abusive.

    From memory it said:

    “We had a democratic choice last June, every one had a vote, which bit of ‘You lost’ don’t you get?

    Or are you suggesting that democratic votes can be ignored by those who end up on the losing side? Could I ignore a Corbyn led Labour government’s laws (were such a thing to happen) because I didn’t vote for them and they negatively affected me personally? Or does this principle only apply to referendums on Europe, in which case what about the people who lost the 1975 referendum and have been in the EU for 40 years against their will? Did you give a jot of care for their ‘democratic rights’ before June last year?’

  31. >The Claimants – me along with three very brave politicians from the Green Party who came forward when no one else would

    This is just so hilarious.

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