Not really Love, no

Europeans have never had it so good. This may sound counterintuitive, at the end of a momentous week when Brexit has been formally triggered, marking for the first time ever a shrinking of the European project. Yet because something seems paradoxical doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

Finns a poorer than they were a few years ago, anyone know whether Spanish GDP per capita has recovered and let’s not even think about Greece.

All three problems caused by the euro of course…

20 comments on “Not really Love, no

  1. That would also include the French and Italian economies that have stagnated for over a decade too………..

  2. Yes … but they can be nice and smile at other Europeans, because we’re all friends together , hands over Europe (etc etc) and lets not mention the near Bankruptcy of the southern half of Europe, the struggling mess that is France etc.

  3. On the matter of Brexit, today’s pronouncement about Spain vetoing the deal if it isn’t happy with Gibraltar, this is nothing new is it?

    It is already the case that every member state has to agree to the final deal? Am I missing something or is this just the EU trying to stir up trouble?

  4. Hey, hang on. Haven’t these people been shouting that real wages have stagnated or even fallen over the past 20 years coz Capitalism? Yet we’ve never had it so good coz Europe?

  5. Fuck the Spanish.

    If they won’t agree a deal we just go.

    If the UK gov had the balls of a gnat they should have the destruction of the EU as a stated aim.

  6. I’m sure the Danes will be chuffed as fuck to have their trade with the U.K. scuppered because the Spanish have a chip on their shoulder over Gibraltar. In fact, these negotiations might well prove illuminating, shining a light on just how well united the remaining 27 are.

  7. Be interesting to see what happens over Gib. Despite the bellicose posturing, the dagos are shitting themselves over Brexit. The UK takes a large proportion of Spain’s agricultural exports & UK to Spain tourism & the spending of ex-pats like myself are a major slice of the economy. Then there’s the UK fisheries access. If they care to use them, UKGov’s got some considerable spiked clubs to brandish in Madrid’s direction.

  8. My own preferred option is, rather than Spain takes over Gibraltar, Gibraltar takes over the Andalucian coastal strip. Locals couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery. The only things work down here, reliably & profitably, aren’t Spanish. Something like an Autonomous Costa del Sol Free Trade Zone would be an economic dynamo.

  9. Maybe I should lead an insurrection. The Spanish military shouldn’t be a problem. The only enemy they’ve fought in the last 200 years was themselves. And then they were on the losing side.

  10. “these negotiations might well prove illuminating, shining a light on just how well united the remaining 27 are.”

    Precisely. I can’t imagine the other 26 will be very happy if Spain vetoes an otherwise entirely satisfactory deal over Gib.

  11. I wouldn’t have thought that we can just sell the Gibraltans down the river like we did the Chagossians. Maybe we should agree to hand it over, then let them take it to the UN.

  12. Europeans have never had it so good.

    Apart from the significantly increased and climbing risk of being raped, stabbed, shot, blown up, beheaded or deliberately run over by adherents of a barbaric religion European authorities will persecute you for criticising, this is truly the best of all possible worlds!

  13. The UK has paid more into the EU than any nation except Germany,

    The UK has provided jobs for about 3m EU citizens, while also exporting 1m pensioners who spend UK cash in what ever sunny EU shores they live on.

    They can either treat us decently or fuck off. I’ll take fuck off.

  14. Tim N – yup, the Commission appears to be in a very badly exposed position wrt Brexit. AFAICS, Junker’s been keeping his trap shut, and Tusk has been getting the column inches recently.

  15. Timmy mentioned Finland; at the time the euro was launched, I read up on it and discovered that Finland was at risk of the “asymmetric shock” wich is inherent in fizxed exchange rate regime.
    25% of exports were paper and wood products; 25% were from a single company, Nokia, which supplied a huge proportion (a third, was it?) of the world’s mobile phones.
    Nokia missed the smartphone trend, and ultimately vanished.
    Finland couldn’t devalue and Finns have suffered ever since.

  16. “Maybe I should lead an insurrection. The Spanish military shouldn’t be a problem. The only enemy they’ve fought in the last 200 years was themselves. And then they were on the losing side.”

    Now, now, they managed to lose to have a dozen Moroccan tribesmen in the 1920s.

  17. If I were May, given Brexit and Indyref2, I’d be planning to move Trident from Faslane to Gib, to be pointed at the dagos.

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