12 comments on “Anyone know the Gibraltar numbers?

  1. It’s just pure Ritchiebollocks. Thatcher put Gibraltar on a commercial footing in the mid eighties, and it’s been a thriving independent economy ever since.

  2. If Ritchie doesn’t understand how it works then his automatic conclusion is that it’s flimflammery, skulduggery, subsidies or shenanigans. He would never admit that he either has not bothered to do basic research or is too thick to understand what he’s found.

  3. I can’t see British military money is anything more than minimal.

    The airport runway is a military one, but the terminal and handling (the vast majority of the cost) is a separate civilian operation. There is no permanent RAF presence there; their ‘planes just use it as a stopover.

    The Royal Navy sold off the dockyards in the ’80s. All we’ve got there now is two ships of the sort that would be thought a bit small for a weekend’s sea fishing, and three inflatables. They share their base with the local police.

    The Army pulled out in the ’90s and handed over to a local force (Royal Gibraltar Regiment). Think there’s still a small British HQ team there, but nothing significant.

    I can’t see anything there that’s going to inject a significant amount of money into the Gib economy.

  4. His response to someone pointing out that he hasn’t read the accounts. And I quote:

    “Richard Murphy says:
    April 5 2017 at 6:46 am
    It wasn’t robustly researched

    It was a comment based on the fact that the presence of UK forces (and they are present) will have such subsidies attached to them as a matter of fact”

    TRANS: I’m talking through my trousers

  5. What, around 300 members of the Gibraltar Regiment and 100 RN matelots? No RAF units, no Royal Dockyards since the 80’s….wow, what a subsidy 🙂

  6. Gibraltar has a strong international financial industry that provides government with most of its revenues. Like Jersey, the Isle of Man etc.

  7. And on-line gambling. Interestingly the eu court of justice recently stated that gib and UK should be considered a single eu state, which will allow hmrc to levy an on-line gambling tax.

  8. Rupert Fiennes said:
    “What, around 300 members of the Gibraltar Regiment and 100 RN matelots?”

    Only 19 Royal Navy people left, they say, not 100 (although I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few more by next week):
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110713035415/http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk:80/operations-and-support/surface-fleet/patrol-vessels/gibraltar-squadron/

    Does anyone know who pays for the Gibraltar Regiment? Might be the Gib government – I think Jersey pay for their Field Squadron (although that’s TA only, not Regulars).

  9. It would be amusing to find that Gib gets less than Scotland through the Barnett Formula.

  10. There was good summary on the steam wireless a couple a days ago. Basically, small country -> small population -> small public service need -> small amount of tax take needed to fund said public services.

    The interviewer kept demanding: but why don’t they have higher taxes like the rest of us? it’s unfair that their taxes are lower than ours. And the interviewee kept trying to explain: but what would they spend it on? Just raise taxes for the sake of raising taxes? They already raise enough money to run the entire microcountry, they don’t *need* to riase taxes.

  11. The interviewer kept demanding: but why don’t they have higher taxes like the rest of us? it’s unfair that their taxes are lower than ours.

    Just a wild stab in the dark – you were listening to the BBC?

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