The Sage of Ely speaks out!

And I will say at the outset that this election troubles me.

It troubles me because it shows contempt for a decision of parliament to hold elections every five years.

And it troubles me because it is intended to reinforce a decision to Brexit that parliament did not take and which a majority of parliamentarians, we know, do not want.

Umm, the majority of Parliament does not support a referendum decision. That’s a pretty good reason to have a parliamentary election, isn’t it?

Finally, it troubles me because, like Erdogan’s ‘success’ in Turkey, this election is designed to reinforce the imposition of the view of a minority in this country on the majority. That’s of massive concern for the stability of the whole of society.

52% is a minority these days, is it?

30 comments on “The Sage of Ely speaks out!

  1. There are a lot of Remoaners who argue precisely that 52% is not a majority, but a request for more information 🙂

    Doubtless, they never had a problem with telling the Danes and Irish to keep voting until they got is “right” either!

    EU political culture is toxic. It destroys everything it touches….

  2. Hilarious from Spud. I wonder if he would be available to Labour leader, once Jeremy emerges from the toilet and hands over power?

  3. I’m old enough to remember last year, when the left said TM had no mandate and thus an election should be held.

  4. Curiously Erdogan was actually elected – unlike the 5 presidents of the EU – who were NOT.

    Moreover, May cannot have an election unless and until parliament votes to dissolve itself by a 65% majority. i would suggest that the “Sage of Ely” STFU !

  5. Abacab, do a google search for “Theresa may mandate Guardian” with the dates set to before yesterday. The results are hilarious.

  6. And it troubles me because it is intended to reinforce a decision to Brexit that parliament did not take and which a majority of parliamentarians, we know, do not want.

    Forgive me if I’m wrong, but Brexit isn’t up to what parliamentarians want, it is what the electorate voted for. Strikes me Spud won’t be happy until Britain has an NK style dictatorship (with him at the helm, naturally).

  7. Like him or not Erdogan, like Putin, won his seats fairly and squarely. The latest referendum was marred by some cheating but the result would probably still have stood. We might as well deal with the fact that some bad guys are popular enough to win elections and referenda than to try to pretend they are cheating.

    Besides, if Erdogan raises taxes Murph will be felching him before sunset.

  8. “It troubles me because it shows contempt for a decision of parliament to hold elections every five years.”

    So Parliament should never change? So when Brown increased the top tax rate to 50%, that was “contempt” for Parliament’s many previous decisions to keep it at 40%?

    Plus when Parliament set the 5-year terms, it wrote in a provision for how to have an early election, which it is following.

    I know where my “contempt” is here.

  9. @rapscallion,

    I told him that yesterday, his reply…

    “Stop wasting my time
    There are real issues of concern in the world. Why not find one to worry about?”

    Nice to know I can post there again as my real self rather than be a sycophantic mystery poster!

  10. The thing is, the 52% are ignorant, racists who are easily influenced by The Sun and the ruskies. It is only right to discount the votes of those who only thought they wanted Brexit and only count those of the maybe half a dozen people who unfathomably really did want Brexit. On that basis, the 48% vote by people who know what is best for everyone else is a stonking majority.

  11. It’s a strange line of argument that Maastricht/Nice/Lisbon, and countless other minor agreements could be signed before morning coffee. Getting out of the EU, though, is something that can only be accomplished in a leap year, when the full moon shines on Lammas Eve, provided the runes are right.

    The central lie of Ultra-Remain is that being part of the ongoing political project that is the EU is in some way neutral, while removing ourselves from it represents a huge departure from the established norms of this country. The projection is quite astonishing.

  12. Technically, she could just repeal or amend the fixed term parliament act – simple majority. But it’s premise was always stupid. What politico would turn down the opportunity for a bit of preening in public?

  13. “repeal the act – simple majority”

    But that aso would need to clear the Lords (?) – ok, in extreme, a guillotine might achieve that relatively quickly. But this is much easier, if she can get two thirds, she only needs a vote in the Commons today?

    And then get rid of the Act after the election; it shouls always have had a sunset clause, it was only intended for the 2010-15 coalition.

  14. Keep an eye on those Labour MPs, the best thing about the FTPA is that today in parliament we will finally get to see turkeys voting for Christmas.

  15. Ritchie’s just upset he now won’t have the time he expected before the next election to try and finagle a safe Labour seat for himself.

  16. Check out his ‘article’ at the Conversation, His comment:

    ‘I think so!

    The trolls just live The Conversation’

    Great to see him describe every comment that basically exposes his complete ignorance of every facet of politics and economics (I maintain my 2 year old son has more of an idea on economics than he does) as ‘Trolling’

  17. Remainers really haven’t thought this one through:

    By authorising a referendum this Parliament abdicated its authority on this issue and is stuck with the result. But …..

    No Parliament can bind the hands of a future Parliament. Therefore …

    The next Parliament would be within its rights to ignore e referendum result while it still could.

    So, all they need to do is for a Remain party and win the election.

  18. @ BiND
    Tim Farron seems to have done so.
    I don’t like him, but Credit where Credit’s due…

  19. @V_P

    It is noticeable that without his ability to ban or simply not publish responses that his “debating skills” are so readily exposed.

  20. Spud gave “evidence” to the Scottish Parliament today. And by evidence I mean his usual trail of insanity, misunderstanding and stupidity.

    He’s claiming it as another triumph of course.

  21. Spud has had to ignore some fine comments on The Conversation. Applause for Andrew C and the porcelain bovid.

  22. @Bloke in North Dorset, April 19, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    I have been worrying about that since around noon yesterday.

    Good to hear I’m not alone in being suspicious of ulterior motives:

    May’s majority not considered by her to be a mandate – Brexit cancelled.

    Will riots erupt? Who will stop them?

  23. John77,

    “Tim Farron seems to have done so.
    I don’t like him, but Credit where Credit’s due…”

    I really can’t stand him, nasty poisoned dwarf, and the TV or radio goes off as soon as he comes on so I wouldn’t know.

    Pcar,

    I know it’s not popular to say this round here, but much as I think here policies are too much in the Heath mode I do think she has integrity and won’t sell out.

  24. Charlie Suet – very well put:

    It’s a strange line of argument that Maastricht/Nice/Lisbon, and countless other minor agreements could be signed before morning coffee. Getting out of the EU, though, is something that can only be accomplished in a leap year, when the full moon shines on Lammas Eve, provided the runes are right.

    Yarp. Handing over power to the Vogons EU is only right and proper – who else could decide what sort of light bulbs and toasters we may be permitted to buy?

    But leaving is perverse and unnatural and shouldn’t even be considered without orders signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters.

    The central lie of Ultra-Remain is that being part of the ongoing political project that is the EU is in some way neutral, while removing ourselves from it represents a huge departure from the established norms of this country. The projection is quite astonishing.

    Apparently leaving the bankrupt, sclerotic and democratically illegitimate EU is “a leap into the unknown”, because nobody knows what happened or how we managed to survive in that historical blink of an eye between 1707 and 1973.

    But staying in the EU, which resembles a bus full of drunken clowns trundling towards a cliff whilst tossing bags of money out of the windows and inviting random third worlders to hop on and rape the passengers, is the stability option.

  25. BiND – I’m not a fan of Mrs May and wouldn’t give you the price of a packet of Space Raiders for the “integrity” of any Member of Parliament, but I do think she’s clever enough to seize the historic opportunity she’s been handed.

    Prime Minister May can complete the realignment of our politics to the centre-right, lance the Conservative Party’s Euroboil (which was already tedious when John Redwood was shoving John Major’s head down the toilet), kick Labour into touch, and create her own legacy as the Iron Lady Mk II.

    There’s little for her to gain – and everything to lose – by backsliding on Brexit. What can the Euros offer her – a sinecure? No amount of brown envelopes are worth not being able to show her face in public for the rest of her natural.

    I’m still concerned our useless civil service will try to stitch together some sort of Frankenstein abomination of a “deal” with the cheese-eating surrender monkeys, but there’s no need to excessively sweat the small stuff while the larger forces of history are breaking our way.

    These are great days. Britain is on its way back.

  26. His article on “The Conversation” is interesting.

    Murphy says:
    “Regular pay in the UK in February was 1.9% higher than a year earlier, but is running below the 2.3% increase in prices. That means real living standards are falling. It is a trend that is likely to continue.”

    As evidence, he links to an Office for National Statistics release that says:
    “Between the three months to February 2016 and the three months to February 2017 in real terms (that is, adjusted for consumer price inflation) regular pay for employees in Great Britain increased”

    According to the source he cites, the last time real wages were down on the previous year was in 2014.

    Is this another example of Murphy using alternative statistics because the real ones aren’t valid?

  27. Cheers Richard.
    I was going to post on that article about how could someone simultaneously make the following claims:
    “We are worse off since Brexit” which was almost 1 year ago and the wage and inflation data are for the last year.
    “We have had a post-Brexit honeymoon”
    I don’t think Murphy is aware of the time period the data is for – he thinks it’s a rune for the year ahead – but it’s actually a measure of what happened in the past year.
    Or he doesn’t care because his job is a gig.

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