Good grief

France’s incoming first lady is being taunted – all because she’s older than her husband
The Independent – ‎1 hour ago‎
It’s been a week since 39-year-old political outsider Emmanuel Macron won the French presidential election. But his wife, 64-year-old Brigitte Macron, has continued to face a litany of misogynistic comments similar to ones that plagued her throughout …

It might all be most unkind, impolitic, impolite, and possibly even ageist.

But it’s not misogyny, is it?

Misogyny isn’t even hatred – let alone insult of, commentary about – of a woman. It’s hated of someone because they are a woman.

37 comments on “Good grief

  1. Misogyny, the Left has taken the word for their own use. It’s meaning is now known only to them.

    Like the word ‘climate.’

  2. There’s certainly a flavour of the intellectually backward, bullying lout in some of the comments about her.

  3. Gamecock, it’s a long list all the words that have lost their meaning, offhand: fascist, racist, islamophobic, populist, denier have all been reduced to a reservoir of insults to be used to demonstrate which side of political culture the accuser and accused belong to. It’s a demonstration of the triumph of subjective prejudice over objective evidence.

  4. I haven’t read the comments, but I think it’s fair to ask what influence this woman will exert on the new president given he’s been under her influence since he was a child. A cynic might suggest that she has been more than a little manipulative.

  5. Oh, and anyone who has read various feminists commenting on Ivanka Trump’s latest book may be forgiven for thinking insulting women using extremely sexist language is perfectly okay provided the woman is of the wrong political persuasion.

  6. I’m pretty sure several people have pointed out the age difference between Trump and his wife too. But I suppose thats OK because they’re non-people (ie not of the Left).

  7. The other inaccuracy, of course is to describe Macron as an “outsider”.

  8. “A cynic might suggest that she has been more than a little manipulative.”

    Support for the theory that behind every great man is a bitch nagging him on.

  9. I remember very well how SJWs The world over were up in arms about the way Sarah Palin was talked about. And wasn’t it those evil right wingers who tried to get Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead to No1 in the charts and held street parties to celebrate the death of Maggie Thatcher?

  10. The Bankster’s Granny is a rancid old bag. Even if she were personally apolitical–being mainly a kiddie-fiddler–or former paedo given Maintenant’s age –she is an enabler of elite scumery and EU sucking treason to her nation.

    Can the country who pioneered Dreyfusardian demented persecution of the innocent find no patriot willing to J’Accuse the profoundly guilty Macaroon to the guill(t)otine? Or Devil’s Island at least.

  11. Just like “celibate” means “not in a relationship”, but it has been appropriated to mean “*IN* a relationship, but not having sex”, when there’s already a perfectly crumulant word for that: “sexless”, without even having to go all poetic and use “chaste”.

  12. @Ljh:
    “fascist, racist, islamophobic, populist, denier” = “people who disagree with me” in modern discourse.

  13. “Crumulant” is not a perfectly cromulent word, those who use it do not embiggen the English language.

  14. The grannygrabber is going to meet Mutti Merkel tomorrow, Hope the Krauts have laid on extra security.

    Meanwhile, the paedo is being touted as an unpaid Minister of Education. Good luck with getting a provincial drama queen to get anything done in an enormous bureaucracy.

  15. Actually I find it quite reasonable to class much of the abuse hurled at the First Lady is misogynistic, in the sense that she is being treated in a way that a man in her position might not be. There certainly seems to be far greater acceptance of age gaps when it is the guy who is older.

    Having said that, with the history involved in this case, if she were a guy there might be even louder calls for prosecution (age-gap relationships involving teachers generally being exceptions to the rule of older women being less accepted than older men).

  16. There certainly seems to be far greater acceptance of age gaps when it is the guy who is older.

    It’s pretty simple.

    A seventy-year-old man can still have kids with a twenty-year-old woman (even if he needs some assistants from stiffy pills). A seventy-year-old woman can’t have kids with a twenty-year-old man.

  17. And I suspect much of the commentary is not about his wife, but the fact that France now has a President whose wife is as old as his mother. Did they really want a man who does whatever Mummy tells him?

  18. Misogyny is when you criticise a woman, e.g. Clinton for being an awful candidate, or Diane Abbott for being as thick as mince.

    It isn’t that simple though – it only applies to women who pass the test. If a woman is an apostate (I.e. Not a leftist drone) then any level of truly vicious actual misogyny is perfectly acceptable and in fact required.

  19. There certainly seems to be far greater acceptance of age gaps when it is the guy who is older left-leaning.

    Fixed it for you. Cases in point:
    Bill Clinton / Monica Lewinsky – 27 year difference
    Bill Clinton / Paula Jones – 20 year difference
    Donald Trump / Melania Trump – 23 year difference

  20. Macron is two years younger than his older stepson. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but it is very weird.

  21. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but it is very weird.

    Yes. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with wanting to marry a mother substitute, it’s just weird.

    And not the kind of thing people really look for in a male leader. Historically, the kind of men who ended up that position had their choice of young women eager to jump into bed with them.

  22. Macron is two years younger than his older stepson. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but it is very weird.

    I’d just love to have been at the dinner table when those two were first introduced. “Sébastien, this child who is 2 years younger than you will be your new daddy”.

    A teacher bedding his/her students is worthy of observation and comment, regardless of their relation to the office of the President of France. If the sexes was reversed then the criticism would have been much more severe.

    I imagine that there will be sniggers in palaces and embassies worldwide about “…the president of France bringing his mother with him”.

    If you don’t want people to laugh behind your back then don’t do the sort of stuff which triggers such laughter.

    …and yes, it is weird. It’s like some Luis Buñuel-style surrealist farce, but that is the French political elite in a nutshell. She’ll probably fit right in.

  23. @The Meissen Bison, May 14, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    The other inaccuracy, of course is to describe Macron as an “outsider”.

    +1

    BBC does that on every domestic & world service news broadcast. Note to BBC: Macron is establishment, not outsider/independent.

    I stopped paying BBC years ago due to their constant pro left, CM, EU, SJW, Green, RoP etc agenda biased agenda and rubbish TV – cook, sew, knit, dance, soap….

    Radio still angers me.

  24. A certain mature French lady taught me an awful lot of amazing things…

    Yes, but I bet she wasn’t one of your teachers…although maybe she was quite professional about the whole thing… 🙂

  25. Why is it that the only people interested in the age of Macron`s wife are people who secretly wanted Le Pen`s Fascists to win ?

    I merely enquire?

  26. I’d just love to have been at the dinner table when those two were first introduced. “Sébastien, this child who is 2 years younger than you will be your new daddy”.

    I suspect they already knew each other. Wasn’t her daughter in his class at school?

  27. Why is it that the only people interested in the age of Macron`s wife are people who secretly wanted Le Pen`s Fascists to win ?

    Secretly? I think quite a few people on here were overtly supportive of Le Pen. Frankly, given the two, it was a hold your nose and vote anyway. I’d probably have voted FN.

    And, no, they aren’t facists. Except in the twin senses that they are economic leftists (actual facism) and they are loathed by the metropolitan elites (arbitrary meaningless insult, possibly even shibboleth).

  28. My experience with older French women was that I remember being on holiday in Paris with my parents in the 70s when aged about 15 and looking about 12. A hooker in her 30s propositioned me in plain sight of my parents and I amazed myself by being able to decline the invitation in fluent French.

  29. As a boy I would happily have married Susannah York, Susan George or blonde one from Abba. Or all three.

    So enough with the jokes.

  30. @Bravefart – you might have learned a thing or two! Or perhaps caught a thing or two.

    Mrs Macron has got off pretty lightly. If the sexes were reversed the older husband would have ‘paedophile’ attached to every article about him in the British press.

  31. > As a boy I would happily have …

    Yes, but we’re talking about grown-ups. Macron can be excused a schoolboy crush; but they didn’t get married until he was 30 and she was 54. He had plenty of chances to back out.

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