Err, OK Joe, and?

Donald Trump has thrown a hand grenade into the global economic architecture that was so painstakingly constructed in the years after the end of the second world war. The attempted destruction of this rules-based system of global governance – now manifested in Trump’s withdrawal of the United States from the 2015 Paris climate agreement – is just the latest aspect of the US president’s assault on our basic system of values and institutions.

That rules based international system was democratically arrived at, was it? So therefore it’s fine if a duly and democractically elected politician finds fault with it. Democratic decisions are not set in stone after all. The people can indeed change their minds.

It was not democratically arrived at? Tough tittie then.

This is not to say that Trump is right by the way. It’s only to say that your hissy fit is unpersuasive. “He’s doing the wrong things” is just fine. “He must not do what I don’t like” is not because there’s another 7 billion of us out here as well.

15 comments on “Err, OK Joe, and?

  1. Rules-based systems of governence really means rule by the courts, rule by lawyers.

    We have a word for that now don’t we: the dickocracy.

  2. The only thing Trump has done wrong on this is to leave the door open to renegotiate the agreement. The agreement is a perfect example of how Obama put ideology ahead of the interests of the people of the USA, just as the leaders of the EU have done for their citizens. By contrast, the leaders of China, India and Russia have made commitments, that they probably will not meet, that allow their emissions to grow for years to come. In addition, huge sums of money are transferred to poorer nations to help them ‘deal’ with the effects of climate change. All this will do is create massive corruption as people climb on the free money bandwagon.

    I sent Trump an email thanking him for pulling the USA out.

  3. We should be leaving the ClimateCrap also.

    Small chance with Dress Up .

    And the “alternative” so-called leaders are even worse scum.

  4. In US legal terms, it’s not even a treaty. So it doesn’t even bind the US. Barry signed it unilaterally, so Donald can un-sign it unilaterally.

    But: repetition of the crux point – it’s not even a treaty as far as US law is concerned! It’s basically analogous to an executive order!

  5. What Ironman said. Paris is another grand scheme for permanently transferring power away from elected officials to activist judges, NGO’S, and the UN.

    Its targets are, of course, “voluntary”, until the lawsuits start arriving in front of sympathetic gavel-fondlers claiming HMG has infringed our yooman rights by not making it cost £30 to boil a kettle.

    Lord Joseph would’ve pointed out the socialist ratchet effect written into the process of 5 yearly “reviews” designed to increase the “ambition” of our commitment to impoverish our own people and give more free money we don’t have to Hottentots, Hindoos and those damned, inscrutable Chinee.

    Yes, Mr Ecks is correct also that we need to show Paris the fingers and rip up the Climate Change Act. It’s depressing that Mrs May has no such ambition, preferring to risk everything that matters for the vitally important cause of posh people being allowed to kill Basil Brush.

    DocBud has missed a moment of Trumpian brilliance here though: The only thing Trump has done wrong on this is to leave the door open to renegotiate the agreement.

    On the face of it, yes, but what he’s actually done is show the Left up bigly.

    A renegotiation isn’t likely to ever happen, and if it did, Paris would fall apart immediately.

    But by taking the moral high ground of offering to negotiate a *fair* agreement, Trump preemptively made Crying Chuck Schumer, the Eurocucks, and Francis the Talking Pope look like they’re the unreasonable ones.

    Also NB he didn’t get bogged down in the weeds of debating the science – such as it is – of global worming. Just framed it in easily digestible​ terms regarding jobs, money and fairness. Simple, but brilliant.

  6. If “the global economic architecture that was so painstakingly constructed in the years after the end of the second world war” cannot handle the USA exiting a terrible agreement that was only created 2 years ago, it doesn’t deserve saving.

    I’m sure the ‘global economic architecture’ will actually be fine. If anything the Paris agreement was very much opening the door to a massive upheaval of the existing economic architecture by instituting climate reparations, moving money from developed to developing nations by force rather than by trade.

  7. TIS – an excellent appraisal. Trump is a master of picking the moment and thinking ahead of the game.

  8. The US reduced its emisions by 3% in 2015, while the EU increased theirs by 0.5%.

    The US isn’t even a net producer of CO2.

    The EU are a bunch of hypocrites.

  9. “That rules based international system was democratically arrived at, was it? ”

    No.

    In which World Parliament was it debated and who were the World MPs debating it and who voted for them?

    What we have is an oligarchy wishing to rule the World for the advantage of those rulers.

  10. ‘global economic architecture that was so painstakingly constructed in the years after the end of the second world war’

    It has taken 70 years for government to get firm control of the ‘economic architecture’ – whatever that is – and Trump is jerking it down.

    The Left’s goal is one global government and control of all people. Climatology is a tool to achieve it. It’s not about the environment; it’s about world control. The Left shrieks as the world takes a step back from global governance. THANKS, MR. TRUMP!

  11. In US legal terms, it’s not even a treaty. So it doesn’t even bind the US. Barry signed it unilaterally, so Donald can un-sign it unilaterally.

    But: repetition of the crux point – it’s not even a treaty as far as US law is concerned! It’s basically analogous to an executive order!

    Perfectly put.

    It has been a grand two days… Watching the melt-down of Our Betters.

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