Oh God, Julie Bindel’s got another book coming out

We have lawyers around here:

In 1996, while helping organise a major conference on male violence against women and girls, I met Fiona Broadfoot. Fiona had recently stopped being involved with prostitution and ran a phone line offering support to women also wishing to escape the sex trade. She told me she had “dozens” of offences for street soliciting, and we spent many hours discussing how to change the law so that prostituted women and men would be no longer treated as criminals. A group of feminists, including Broadfoot, set up a re-education scheme for punters two years later in an attempt to put the onus on the perpetrators, and launched a campaign to decriminalise those unfortunate enough to be caught up in the sex trade.

Nineteen years on, Broadfoot is finally getting close to achieving her goal. Along with five other women in the UK, she is bringing a legal challenge against the government in an attempt to expunge all the criminal records from soliciting that arise from street prostitution.

What am I missing here?

Section 18 of the Policing and Crime Act 2009 amends section 5 of the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974. It applies to the rehabilitation periods for those convicted of loitering or soliciting for the purposes of offering services as a prostitute and sentenced to an order under section 1 of the Street Offences Act 1959. The rehabilitation period applicable to an order under section 1(2)(A) of the Street Offences Act 1959 shall be 6 months from the date of conviction for the offence in respect of which the order is made. When the order has been completed, the person subject to the order will have become a rehabilitated person under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974. This is with effect from 1 April 2010.

Soliciting elicits a fine, no more, so the conviction is quickly spent. I’m just dandy with it not being a crime in the first place, equally so with such a triviality (it really is all about not in the streets and offending the horses) being a minor offence and thus discharged quickly.

What I’m missing is the problem here. Is there perhaps some enhanced check where spent convictions still come up?

17 comments on “Oh God, Julie Bindel’s got another book coming out

  1. There is an enhanced check when one applies for a Firearms Certificate. Probably other cases too.

  2. Isn’t it part of the enhanced checks demanded on anyone who wants to work with children, as part of the efforts to close loopholes after a murder (the school caretaker one?)?

  3. Indeed there are. But enhanced checks cost money and need specific documentation so are usually only done when really needed (teacher, sports coach etc). It won’t stop getting most jobs where an enhanced check won’t be done.

    What is annoying about them is that one organisation doesn’t recognise a check done by another. I had one from my local rugby club (I referee kids games so needed one) and they wouldn’t accept the check I already had done by a school where I’m a governor.

  4. There are a number of checks where (some or all) spent convictions are disclosed. Any Police check, any HMG vetting check, for one, as well as both Enhanced and PVG checks (which are different).

    “A PVG certificate contains all unspent and certain spent conviction information.”

    “Information included in an enhanced disclosure … relevant spent convictions”

  5. The problem Tim is that ALL MEN ARE BASTARDS.

    This will be the theme of the book, as indeed was the theme of the other books.

  6. Fiona had recently stopped being involved with prostitution

    Don’t you admire the sisterly coyness there?

  7. Andy H,

    > What is annoying about them is that one organisation doesn’t recognise a check done by another.

    Is it up to the organisation’s discretion, or is there some over-arching rule that says that every sports club needs its own DBS check?

  8. Andy H / Andrew M

    That used to be the case but you can subscribe to an update service whereby you pay a yearly subscription and the DBS is portable and evergreen. You simply provide your subscription service ID (rather than your certificate) to any organisation that requires it.

  9. It’s not about legal and administrative practicalities. It’s about shame.

    Feminism is about removing all constraints on female behaviour, while maximising them on men.

    “It’s actually EMPOWERING to be a slut!”

    “So WHAT if I guzzle Toblerones by the pallet and my BMI is WTF? Only REAL men can handle this much woman!”

    “No, it’s GOOD that you killed your baby!”

    “So what if I let Japanese businessmen cover me like a painter’s radio for a Tuesday lunch discount rate of £75? Don’t judge me!”

  10. @Andy_H

    “What is annoying about them is that one organisation doesn’t recognise a check done by another.”

    Because the check is out of date by the time the ink dries, since it clearly doesn’t cover anything that’s happened since it was generated.

  11. “perpetrators”
    Fiona has convictions for soliciting: i.e. she made the the first move. Julie wants to shift “the onus onto the perpetrators” – in normal English that means Fiona, but to the Grauniad that means any man who accepts a freely-made offer.

  12. If she’s running a help line for sex workers isn’t she still technically involved in prostitution

  13. Andy H
    I used to coach and ref junior rugby too. In France, no one asks you for a CRB check, but I was careful to stay a bit clear of physical contact, just in case.
    I notice that there are a lot of middle aged ladies, all totally innocent I’m sure, who wander in to the shower rooms.

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