Calling Mr. Newman

“The French have the impression that the Dutch think only of money and are always ready to fight for profit. They are not afraid of anything,” the researchers reported.

“The Dutch think that the French are attached to a hierarchy and political interests which are not necessarily the same as the interests of the company … “

Tim’s comments on French corporate culture would be welcome here.

24 comments on “Calling Mr. Newman

  1. I had something to say about National Character and the delusions of the senile Brexit booster yesterday. The true Brit is a craven beetle man of whom I am ashamed

    “In fact this country is more timid hierarchical and dull than most any other in the opinion of the rest of the world .Far from being adventurous, most of its occupants just love a rule; love following it , love telling other people to do the same .
    The need to incessantly complain about, let us say , parking arrangements or planning applications , should not be confused with any independent spirit .It is rather a small minded petty selfishness that thrives in the bureaucracy that is the Englishman`s natural habitat .
    It is this “pink half of the drain pipe “peevishness that lead to Brexit rather than any Nationalist vision , the peculiar suspicion that others are straying into our parking space .We have a little bit of Drake in us no doubt, but philosophically and psychologically its Pooter all the way down.”

  2. On average, French companies are either rather large, or quite small. There are very few around the 50 employees mark that suddenly causes an enclenchement of various regulations, paperchases, costs and so on.

    Large companies are almost always subject to internal politics and hierarchy taking precedence over the company’s interests, particularly in a jobsworth culture of “I’ve done my 35 hours and you basically can’t fire me so piss off”.

    The stories I could tell about one of the French parts of my previous employer…….

  3. A retired French salesman of my acquaintance frequently, and without prompting, complains of the Dutch tendency to view every social interaction as a commercial one.

  4. And not just the French. Working in Belgium I was treated to the hoary old “how do you make copper wire” joke. (Give two Durchmen a penny.) And they were a Flemish outfit.

  5. Having had contact with many Dutch people in business and socially, I consider them generally to be tightwads.

    They seem to have refined the tactic of going for a prolonged piss when it’s their time to stand a round.

  6. Gratuitous bolshiness is endemic in brother frog – it’s his way of marking his space. This does not always make for a happy working environment where it is alloyed with a marked tendency energetically to suck-up to ones superiors while oppressing one’s underlings.

    Add heavy unionisation to the mix plus a sprinkling of largely ornamental and ineffectual individuals who have been introduced on the nepotism network and the atmosphere can become febrile.

  7. NewRemainiac–if you listen to treasonous cunts on the radio while you are painting your face you will never get the Union Jack lined up straight. And all your remainwank middle-class faux patriot sports pals will laugh at you for the Craven Park Beetle that you are.

  8. ‘In matters of commerce the fault of the Dutch
    Is offering too little and asking too much.’

    (Canning)

    If TW had gone to a decent school he’d have heard this little rhyme. And possibly have heard of Canning.

  9. In private life too: a friend of mine with Dutch family was shocked at the speed of their arrival following each of his parents’ deaths, and the frankness with which they eyed up any agreeably valuable (and portable) household items.

  10. Fen Tiger…

    I don’t believe this trait is limited to the cloggies. In my experience we Brits are pretty quick off the mark when someone turns their toes up.

  11. Free market capitalism with economic activity to produce things to consume meets dirigisme with economic activity to create life-long jobs… what could possibly go wrong?

  12. The funny thing with my old employer was that they took over a fairly large, but very VERY old-fashioned French firm that was haemorraging money hand over fist despite doing good turnover, thinking they’d put it right, easy.

    For every suggested change, the answer was “non” from the trade union.

    The losing money thing was apparently the bosses’ problem, and the syndicat was sure as hell not going to let them do anything about it.

  13. BraveFart
    … also first out of the taxi and last to the bar.

    Actually my main experience of the Dutch is farming in Australia. I was the townie for hire. You could tell the Dutch in any community because they were the ones that took a packed lunch out for the days work while most everyone else came home for a big feed of chops and an hour or so of test cricket on the TV.

  14. Tim Newman…

    There’s an excellent article in this morning’s FT Magazine regarding the use of emojis if you are over 30 years of age.

  15. There’s an excellent article in this morning’s FT Magazine regarding the use of emojis if you are over 30 years of age.

    I blame Twitter and WhatsApp

  16. In private life too: a friend of mine with Dutch family was shocked at the speed of their arrival following each of his parents’ deaths, and the frankness with which they eyed up any agreeably valuable (and portable) household items.

    I briefly knew a young Dutch widow and her 6 year old boy when I lived in Thailand a few years back. Her late husband was also Dutch, and was some high-flyer in a bank and died of a massive heart attack in his mid-thirties when she was pregnant with his kid. Pretty tragic all ’round.

    She said his parents organised the funeral in his hometown and she attended, of course. About a week later she received an invoice from his parents for parking her car in their driveway for the 2-3 days she was there.

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  18. Well, I’ve had cause to associate with both the Dutch and the Scots over the years and I’ve not known them to stint anyone but themselves.

    Best regards

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